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Mobtown · #1 08-15-2006, 12:00 AM

Admin Steve · #2 08-15-2006, 07:28 AM

One thing I've learned is never say never. At some point - probably this season - this forum will be used

We can always change it to 'The great Billick debate'

jonboy79 · #3 08-15-2006, 10:27 AM

Well, you could call it "The Great Back-up QB Debate":229031_lastyr:

Losac · #4 08-15-2006, 10:50 AM

Well, as much as I love McNair - he's not the future. I'd say he'd give us 3 years tops, so at some point we should look at drafting a REAL franchise QB and let McNair groom him for awhile.

Boller should be considered a bust at this point.

jonboy79 · #5 08-15-2006, 11:28 AM

and there off....

Boller is currently #2 on the depth chart, knows the offense and its under the cap. Let's hold out hope and call him a bust in the offseason if he's still PooPoo when we have the opportunity to change our situation.

Yipicya · #6 08-15-2006, 11:31 AM

Boller makes Tim Couch look competent.

I do feel you'll be in a position to draft a QB next year in the first round. Probably Troy Smith will be there at 10 when you draft.

LOL

RavenMad2099 · #7 08-15-2006, 11:38 AM

Number 10?

LOL...we're gunna have to hope someone falls late into the first round, Yip!!!

Yipicya · #8 08-15-2006, 11:58 AM

you'll win 5-7 games, that's about all you can hope for.

Heh

Greg · #9 08-15-2006, 12:01 PM

LOL, okay Skippy, we have a smak forum for your bloviations.

Yipicya · #10 08-15-2006, 12:27 PM

Yes mom

GreenWave52 · #11 08-15-2006, 03:06 PM

Wow, who invited Yip?

It didn't take long for this board to get invaded. :34853_lame:

Greg · #12 08-15-2006, 03:27 PM

Yip is okay. Well, as okay as you can be when you are

1. A Clownfan
2. A government employee
3. A lawyer

Man, now that I type that out it is quite the trifecta of shithead.

RavenTD · #13 08-15-2006, 03:59 PM

Did you see the vid of Boller on the frontpage of 24x7. The wounded duck that was intercepted.Man,that was a thing of beauty.I believe Boller is now,where Redman was when Boller took over.Shot to pieces on the inside.
Sad to see,but who said life was kind?

TTRaven · #14 08-15-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RavenTD

Did you see the vid of Boller on the frontpage of 24x7. The wounded duck that was intercepted.Man,that was a thing of beauty.I believe Boller is now,where Redman was when Boller took over.Shot to pieces on the inside.
Sad to see,but who said life was kind?

I agree, he does seem to be where Redman was. He looks like a defeated man. It's a real shame to see that. Boller is the type of player that you want to root hard for. He's a very likeable guy who was put into a bad situation here in Baltimore. Brian Billick should have never forced Kyle Boller into the starting line-up. He needs to go somewhere else and get a fresh start.

StingerNLG · #15 08-15-2006, 04:30 PM

I say Kansas City will be the perfect spot for him. They've got an offensive line that can protect QB's (which is why Trent Green could be back there until he's 100 years old), and Trent doesn't have much time left in the league.

I agree that basically he's no good here. The people who hate him will never like him no matter what, and the players just no longer respond to him, especially seeing how they respond and talk about McNair.

It is what it is, you know?

GreenWave52 · #16 08-15-2006, 09:00 PM

Ouch. That Boller pass looked like Kyle wasn't even trying. On the flip side, that was a great in stride deep ball by McNair.

Ravensarge · #17 08-15-2006, 10:50 PM

OMG....I love my Ravens but....Boller should be cut (OUCH!!) St. Pierre, IMO, looked better and after Thursday I think Drew will do the same!!!!

TTRaven · #18 08-16-2006, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravensarge

OMG....I love my Ravens but....Boller should be cut (OUCH!!) St. Pierre, IMO, looked better and after Thursday I think Drew will do the same!!!!

There's no reason to out right cut Kyle Boller. You can't go into a season with Brian St. Pierre and Drew Olson as the back-ups to Mcnair. There's a reason why Olson wasn't drafted and did not see time Friday. While Boller didn't look like anything special, he still out performed St. Pierre last Friday.

FellsPointRaven · #19 08-16-2006, 08:59 AM

Plus St Pierre was going against THIRD stringers for his outing in the fourth quarter. I agree that even though Kyle didn't look great, he still looked like our second best QB. He's still under contract and should be our back-up this season.

I just hope to God he builds some confidence by having some decent turnouts in the next three pre-season games. He needs building up mentally more than anything right now.

postalworker · #20 08-16-2006, 10:46 AM

I've always been a Boller supporter, but at this point, it seems like he's just mentally shot. If he had sat for a year and learned, who knows? He might have been great. He's a tought competitor and seems like a great guy, so it really sucks to see how this has turned out.

Maybe if he had better coaching, a more capable offense around him early on... I don't know. The guy's shown flashes- he looked like Brett Favre in his prime for those two games last season. But, he's just too inconsistent.

I agree, Kansas City would be a good place for him.

That said, I'd like to see him maybe get another shot here.