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pyite32
07-25-2007, 12:46 PM
Read the article on the 24x7 main page (Goodell Perfect Game) and then come let me know your thoughts.

Given his past troubles with the Ron Mexico thing, the near Pot bust, and now the seriousness of these charges should he be suspended for a year?

Or since his trial probably won't start until after the season should they wait and see?

Should they have a rule that a player cannot play while actively participating in a criminal court case? Which would mean he could probably play this year and then if the case runs into next season after it starts he wouldn't be able to play until it was over (assuming he is not in jail that is b/c if he were he wouldn't be able to play anyway.)

Slow day need some discussion.

I personally think he should be suspended this season and until his trial is over but I am thinking more with my heart than my head being a dog lover and finding the details of the charges appalling and sickening.

I do not want this to be a discussion that turns into an argument about Pit Bulls.

festivus
07-25-2007, 02:34 PM
Yes.

Fanman
07-25-2007, 02:44 PM
Based on the fact that Jones was suspended already I can't see why Goodell is waiting on doing the same to Vick. The longer he waits the more it looks like a double-standard. If he is found innocent then just reinstate him back into the league.

Hey Joey Harrington...here is your BIG chance!!!

FM

ravensfan1996
07-25-2007, 04:01 PM
I think the fact that Vick has no "history" or "repeat" offenses is what is saving him. The water bottle thing didnt look right, but looked like there wasnt enough there to do anything. So this is vick's first real offense. Jones had 7 or 8 in just over a years time. Thats why he got suspended. Its the repeaters he is fining and suspending.

Some people are saying he isnt innocent til proven guilty? well the NFL isnt saying is guilty or not, they are saying he is involved some how, his name is putting a bad image on the NFL, so as an empolyer they have a right to suspend or fine him. Just like you company, if you didnt show for work monday cuz you were in jail, they could fire you even if the case is dropped later.

ravens-maniac
07-25-2007, 05:17 PM
yes !!!!!!!!!

ravens-maniac
07-25-2007, 05:18 PM
:mad:

ravens-maniac
07-25-2007, 05:19 PM
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad:

duffybr
07-25-2007, 10:32 PM
He will be cut when the time is appropriate for atlanta to make a claim against the guaranteed $$ in his contract.
I cant see him playing again for any team other than the raiders and they jsut drafted thier guy.
Public opinion will be brutal, and will not fade.
I dont think it will make much difference to atlanta, football wise he has always been over hyped, overpaid and overrated.

psuasskicker
07-26-2007, 09:09 AM
I think odds are pretty good he'll never play another down in the NFL. I hope he doesn't, and think he should be banned from the league.

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flraven
07-26-2007, 09:14 AM
I think odds are pretty good he'll never play another down in the NFL. I hope he doesn't, and think he should be banned from the league.

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same here, I agree he should be out of the league.

FellsPointRaven
07-26-2007, 09:24 AM
My main problem with the article was this:

"He has done a marvelous job picking up where should be Hall of Famer Paul Tagliabue left off."

I guess Shan is not from Baltimore.

psuasskicker
07-26-2007, 09:28 AM
Watching NFL-TA and their legal expert they have covering the Vick situation in Richmond is saying that Vick's legal team is likely telling Vick to voluntarily step out of playing this year. It keeps Goodell from having to suspend him. It keeps the NFL's actions out of the courtroom (which could look really bad to their defense if the NFL says he did something wrong and punishes him). And the attorneys have uninterupted access to Vick for his defense...he said that this isn't a case where they're sifting through legal documents and precident. It's a case where people are providing testimony, and "if someone says something bad about Vick, Martin needs to call Vick and not get his message because Vick's in a classroom studying plays."

Interesting notion, and I think it's pretty likely right now. I find it tough to imagine Vick plays this year...

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Ravenswarrior19
07-26-2007, 05:35 PM
I think he will be suspended, soon, as per the NFL Personal Conduct Policy.

It is undeniable that dog carcasses and dog fighting paraphenalia were removed from a property that he owned. That is a fact that cannot be disputed in court.

Regardless of his innocence or guilt in the criminal procedings, the NFL can rule that the fact that he owned the house reflects badly enough that he is in violation of the Conduct Policy. Goodell can then suspend him on those grounds, which I expect to happen soon.

Rex Thunder
07-26-2007, 06:11 PM
Vick's lawyer read "Vick" response- what a crock...

Did anyone see the letter Michael Vick's lawyer read outside the courthouse, claiming it be written by "Mike?"

Now granted, it's a given that the lawyers write these letters with the player- or at the very least coach them on what to say. BUt I have serious doubt that Vick himself EVER saw a single word of that statement before it was read.

Towards the end of the letter, it read "and to my teammates, I am very sorry that I will not be around for the beginning of spring training."

What football player calls it that? It is training camp! It's not spring, it's summer. Spring training is baseball. This lawyer just made it pretty obvious to any keen observer that he had written the letter.

Call me nitpicky- but when you are telling us that he, being a football player, Michael Vick, wrote what you are reading- and then you refer to something as simple as "training camp" in the wrong manner- it makes me laugh.

I can see Vick just shrugging at having to do anything himself, just telling his lawyers, "Do whatever you gotta do, you gettin paid!"

He needs to be locked up... whether he was the one doing the drowning, electrocuting, or pounding- he knew about it- and he provoked it. He owned the house! Only a moron would not know what was going on. The whole thing is a sham.

Ever since his little brother showed his true colors, I really wondered how Mike had slipped thru the cracks for so long. Now you can see the brotherly resemblance!