Is Rick Dempsey a peabrain?

[festivus]

Desperate for a topic unrelated to the half dozen quarterbacks currently associated with the Ravens, I stumbled across a second (!) major professional sports team in Baltimore.

Rough transcipt of a live interview of Jay Gibbons' wife during a ballgame & about her charity work, per Rick Maese's column (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.maese508,0,2398453.column?coll=bal-sports-headlines):
Dempsey: "Laura, will this kind of help Jay in the domestic violence area? If he doesn't start getting a few more hits, you might grab him around the neck and rough him up a little bit. [Is] this money going to go to help him a little bit with maybe some of the hospital bills or something like that?"

Giuliani: "I don't know, Rick. I don't think I'm encouraging that. I'm definitely not --"

Dempsey: "Not going there?"

Giuliani: "Nope, not going there."

Dempsey: "All right, I'll domestically violate him if he doesn't start getting some more hits."

[RavenFanatic2k6]

I was watching the game when he said that and really couldn't believe what I was hearing.

[Losac]

Dempsey is a lush. He drunkenly came onto my friend's sister, who was about 17 at the time, when she worked at Bo Brooks. He comes across as an Angelos lackey too because he seems to keep hanging around the team in some capacity.

[purplepoe]

Poor choice of words and poor subject to joke about.

That said, Gibbons is horrible.

PP

[teddykgb33160]

dempsey is a worthless dumba@@, i rather have my eyes hit with ice picks, then listen to him call a game

[RavensNTerps]

thought it was hilarious...he kpet going about 20 mins after it was awkward already lol.

[WxKevin]

I think he is funny but I am easily amused.

He had some great comments this past weekend about the 5-man rotation and how he thinks they need to go back to a 4-man for better competition. He said he tried to implement a 4-man rotation when he was the manager of the Dodger's and got shot down and almost fired for even suggesting it.

So the other day Steve Trachsel pitches and they take him out after 86 pitches and 6 innings when he had only given up 1 run and the score was tied 1-1. WTF?!?!?!

[Rochardrik]

Desperate for a topic unrelated to the half dozen quarterbacks currently associated with the Ravens, I stumbled across a second (!) major professional sports team in Baltimore.

Rough transcipt of a live interview of Jay Gibbons' wife during a ballgame & about her charity work, per Rick Maese's column (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.maese508,0,2398453.column?coll=bal-sports-headlines):
Dempsey: "Laura, will this kind of help Jay in the domestic violence area? If he doesn't start getting a few more hits, you might grab him around the neck and rough him up a little bit. [Is] this money going to go to help him a little bit with maybe some of the hospital bills or something like that?"

Giuliani: "I don't know, Rick. I don't think I'm encouraging that. I'm definitely not --"

Dempsey: "Not going there?"

Giuliani: "Nope, not going there."

Dempsey: "All right, I'll domestically violate him if he doesn't start getting some more hits."

To answer your question, Yes! . At least Angelos got one thing , well, half right. Perlozzo may not be the right guy, but imagine the Demper as the O's manager?:rolleyes:

[RavenFanatic2k6]

So the other day Steve Trachsel pitches and they take him out after 86 pitches and 6 innings when he had only given up 1 run and the score was tied 1-1. WTF?!?!?!

Perlozzo took Guthrie out last night after the sixth inning when he had thrown just 67 pitches and gave up just 1 run. I understand Guthrie may have come from the BP but come on, with a 4 run lead, you have to let him go out there and pitch a little longer.

[ravenmaniac]

Much ado about nothing, he apologized, it was a JOKE, debate whether it was in poor taste but bringing up how he allegedly "drunkenly came on to someone's sister" has nothing to do w/the comment. He is a good guy who made a stupid joke and he said as much. No doubt the political correctness police will NOT accept his apology and will demand MORE apologies and maybe some sensitivity courses and a check to the House of Ruth.

[festivus]

Much ado about nothing, he apologized, it was a JOKE, debate whether it was in poor taste but bringing up how he allegedly "drunkenly came on to someone's sister" has nothing to do w/the comment. He is a good guy who made a stupid joke and he said as much. No doubt the political correctness police will NOT accept his apology and will demand MORE apologies and maybe some sensitivity courses and a check to the House of Ruth.

Losac's statement that Dempsey drunkenly came on to his sister has *exactly* as much to do with it as your claim that he "is a good guy," except that Losac's comment is apparently backed by personal experience.

I don't want to hear any crap about the so-called "political correctness police" either, because this is not some borderline case. It was stupid stupid stupid, and insensitive, and so-called political correctness has nothing to do with it.

So yeah, I'd say he's a peabrain, to answer my own question.

[ravenmaniac]

Losac's statement that Dempsey drunkenly came on to his sister has *exactly* as much to do with it as your claim that he "is a good guy," except that Losac's comment is apparently backed by personal experience.

"Personal experience"? "My friend's sister said", define "coming on to her". Was he there? Were you? Again, what does that have to do with him joking that she should rough Gibbons up to get him out of his slump?

It was stupid stupid stupid, and insensitive, and so-called political correctness has nothing to do with it.

It was stupid and Dempsey said as much as he APOLOGIZED.

In an interview yesterday, Dempsey apologized and said he felt the humor was directed at Gibbons' batting slump, not the noble cause Giuliani was supporting.

"I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone with my comments," said Dempsey, the former Orioles player and coach who normally handles pre- and post-game duties for MASN. The Indians series marked the first time this season he did commentary from the stadium.

"I was trying to bring some levity to the fact that Jay hasn't been hitting as well as he wanted to. ... It is a serious issue, and I didn't mean to make a joke about that at all."

My point was and still is, how many times will he have to apologize before its accepted?

[festivus]

Peabrains can apologize. In this case, one did.

[ravenmaniac]

By the way, I just logged on to wnst.net and read Drew's latest blog where he said Dempsey should write a check to the House of Ruth and go give a speech where he talks about domestic violence. THIS is exactly what I was talking about.

I spoke to soon, I just read Casey Willet's blog and he thinks Dempsey should be fired for "joking about domestic violence". More overreaction by NST.

For Rick to say the things that he said, and for there to be no action taken for it is pathetic, in my opinion. Did we not just have a month of discussions about what Don Imus said on the radio, and how wrong it was?

I am by no means supporting what Don Imus said -- and agree that he should have lost his job over it -- but should the same not apply to Rick or any other member of the media that says something along those lines? Trust me, if I or anyone else associated with WNST went on the air and said something along the lines of what Dempsey said, we would be getting a nice vacation (or as the Aerosmith song said, a "permanent vacation").

[festivus]

I would hope he would write such a check for the same reason I hoped Jon Corzine, governor of New Jersey, would write a check to SADD or some other traffic-safety oriented organization, after getting badly hurt in an accident where he wasn't wearing his seatbelt. He set a terrible example and took blame for it, but words are much cheaper then a check sent to the appropriate charity, and everybody would benefit from seeing how a man can repent with dignity.

If you are a public figure, and you set a stupid moronic peabrained example by doing something like mocking the scourge of domestic violence, you have within your power to do the *right* thing, and not just say what's right, but show everyone what's right, so soon after you showed them what's wrong.

I have no problem with someone saying he should put his money where his mouth is in his apology. I think it would be the right thing to do, though I understand this is not something we're going to agree on.

[festivus]

Don Imus at least can say, people who listen to my show know how I talk, or they figure it out pretty quickly. That's me and my show, and people don't have to listen.

It's different when you're calling a baseball game.

[ravenmaniac]

So then what is a "suitable" punishment? Suspension? Fine? prison? first born? Multiple apologies? No doubt, he goes on tv with a BIGGER apology and then that will not be enough.

[festivus]

Either you didn't read my post or you deliberately misunderstood it. Ok.

I don't want anybody 'punished'. I want to see someone for once "man up" and show the world what's *right*, after he's showed it what's wrong. Writing a charitable donation, not as punishment but as a simple act of repentance, would be perfect.

[ravenwoman]

Why isn't this thread under "Them O's Hon" or another forum. I thought this is the Ravens 24x7 thread? What is it doing here?

[festivus]

It's the off season. Occasional off topic threads are allowed, as I understand it. And desperate for something unrelated to Kyle Boller, Troy Smith or Steve McNair, I started one. :)

[RavenFanatic2k6]

He was joking around. People need to get over it. Bunch of whining ass nappy headed hoes around here

:thumbdown:

I'm sure people listening to the game who are or have been a victim of domestic abuse found it real funny. Please. You don't "joke around" about something like domestic violence.

[Losac]

"Personal experience"? "My friend's sister said", define "coming on to her". Was he there? Were you? Again, what does that have to do with him joking that she should rough Gibbons up to get him out of his slump?

It was just another example of the guy acting like a bonehead. That's all. No need to throw a fit, RM.

It was just a bad attempt at a joke. Not even funny even if you take the taboo subject matter away. Luckily he didn't say anything about blacks or Al and Jesse would be on the first plane to Baltimore to call for his head on a platter. This will most likely blow over quickly.

[highwater]

This will most likely blow over quickly.

Maybe, but I'm not so sure. After finally hearing it on the radio today, I was amazed at how Dempsey kept going on with this weird line of questionning, when it was obvious that Gibbons' wife wanted nothing to with it. The fact that he just wouldn't stop right away makes it look worse.

And yes, I realize he was trying to be funny, but he wasn't.

[Rochardrik]

Don Imus at least can say, people who listen to my show know how I talk, or they figure it out pretty quickly. That's me and my show, and people don't have to listen.

It's different when you're calling a baseball game.

What Don Imus said, in the right setting, (a comedy club, by a black comedian) is FUNNY... think about it. Abuse is NEVER funny, Never, not one bit. Only someone who has not experienced it, or been around it, could EVER possibly make such statements as Rick Dempsey did! It proves that he has never had the occasion to experience it, or actually give it some serious thought, .... or he IS a peabrain!:embarassed:

[RavensFanIAm]

Poor choice of words and poor subject to joke about.

That said, Gibbons is horrible.

PP


Basically. Although Dempsey shouldn't have said it, Gibbons can't pay for a base hit.

[ravenmaniac]

Maybe NST starts a new protest to get him fired.

[purplepoe]

Talk about not understanding things. Drew and Casey are just another example of the media blowing something out of proportion and wanting someone to pay even though it's not a big deal.

Im with RM on this.

He apologized for a stupid thing. That should be the end of it.

This is absolutely political correctness coming out and it's getting out of control.

It's pretty obvious that Rick wasn't condoning anything about domestic violence.

But the PC police come out in full force and make this shit into something it's not.

It's funny how some people can say whatever they want without any repercussions yet others get roasted for something that wasn't even close to being malicioius. Look at the context, analyze what the person said, then make your conclusion.

To even insinuate that Dempsey should be fined, let alone fired, is ridiculous.

THAT, would be the real joke.

PP

[festivus]

PP, I'm not sure if you're suggesting I said he should be fined. I'm not, that would be wrong, and misreading what I've written here. But I would like to see him do something - anything - to show some contrition. A contribution of money or time or a favorable public appearance, I don't care.

Like I said, I had the same thought about Jon Corzine, for setting a bad example not wearing a seatbelt. If you're a big shot, and you do something regrettable, show the world how you really feel (or pretend to really feel) with something more concrete than an obligatory "I'm sorry."

I'm not the "PC police," whoever they are.

[purplepoe]

Festivus

Im just talking in general about what I've read on this thread and on NST's site.

Look, he said something dumb. He apologized for it. It should end there.

If he CHOOSES to do something else, then fine. But why is that any time someone misspeaks nowadays, an apology isn't enough?

People want people fired. They want heads to roll. He should donate money to the House of Ruth etc......

Again, Dempsey said something stupid. I agree. It's a sensitive subject that shouldn't be joked about. But let's look at it for what it is, not what others want it to be. He didn't condone or even come close to condoning domestic violence.

People get offended ALL the time in this country. Im sure you've been offended and I have as well. It doesn't mean people should be fired as some have suggested. Get the over it.

What makes me crazy is the overreaction to stuff like this and the apathy about stuff said that is WAY worse than this.

PP

[highwater]

Look, he said something dumb. He apologized for it. It should end there.PP

I agree. I said in an earlier post that what he said was totally unfunny, and he should have shut up with it as soon as it became apparent that Gibbons' wife was uncomfortable with it. But I didn't say he should be fired for it. Scolded behind closed doors maybe, but not fired. This is the potential disaster that can happen when you exercise really poor judgement during a live interview on television. Most of the moronic comments that we might occasionally make aren't replayed on various radio stations all day long. He can't hide from it, which is probably why he was so quick to apologize.

So Dempsey has already caught up to Gary Thorne on the MASN employee list of announcers who have said something really stupid on the air this year (or has it been this month?).

[purplepoe]

[QUOTE=highwater;37255

So Dempsey has already caught up to Gary Thorne on the MASN employee list of announcers who have said something really stupid on the air this year (or has it been this month?).[/QUOTE]

So true.

The King can't even get his TV station to do things right.

It all starts at the top.

PP

[Sports Steve]

Desperate for a topic unrelated to the half dozen quarterbacks currently associated with the Ravens, I stumbled across a second (!) major professional sports team in Baltimore.

Rough transcipt of a live interview of Jay Gibbons' wife during a ballgame & about her charity work, per Rick Maese's column (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.maese508,0,2398453.column?coll=bal-sports-headlines):
Dempsey: "Laura, will this kind of help Jay in the domestic violence area? If he doesn't start getting a few more hits, you might grab him around the neck and rough him up a little bit. [Is] this money going to go to help him a little bit with maybe some of the hospital bills or something like that?"

Giuliani: "I don't know, Rick. I don't think I'm encouraging that. I'm definitely not --"

Dempsey: "Not going there?"

Giuliani: "Nope, not going there."

Dempsey: "All right, I'll domestically violate him if he doesn't start getting some more hits."


I'm very disappointed to hear the Rick Dempsey would make such a comment like this.

:jester: :jester:

[festivus]

RN, just because it was a joke, doesn't mean it wasn't stupid, or offensive, or hurtful. Obviously if someone 'joked' about that adorable baby in your signature line, the fact that it was a joke would not necessarily mean it wasn't in terrible taste.

[ravenmaniac]

RN, just because it was a joke, doesn't mean it wasn't stupid, or offensive, or hurtful. Obviously if someone 'joked' about that adorable baby in your signature line, the fact that it was a joke would not necessarily mean it wasn't in terrible taste.

And No one is saying it wasn't in bad taste. He Freakin APOLOGIZED! This is the point. People are calling for his J-O-B. Its ridiculous.

[Mista T]

Whining people suck! It was a joke. This is the problem with society, we take things meant to be funny to seriously. GET OVER IT YOU PRUDES.

I agree 100%. Talk about much ado about nothing -- a botched joke? Some people should get a life!


You want to bitch about something meaningful, since this has turned into a political forum....Bitch about this knuckle head president killing our troops by having them fight a war that is not ours...then maybe youll have the write to complain.



And what does a discussion about the President have to do with Rick Dempsey? And calling him a knucklehead is disgraceful .... how about if I call Hillary Clinton a dyke-loving, bra-burning, male-bashing c*nt?

btw: I am a staunch isolationist who opposed sticking our noses in the Middle East - but I take strong offense :mad: at anyone degrading the President -- and, btw, there were also about 500 or so members of Congress who voted to authorize the war.

Off to "Politics" with this worthless thread.

[ravenmaniac]

Why can't you call the president a knucklehead? Thats tame compared to what was said about Clinton over the years. Bush is ranked right there with Jimmy Carter as one of the worst presidents of all time.