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Greg
04-28-2007, 12:40 PM
The bacteria infested Clowns are on the clock.

ExiledRaven
04-28-2007, 12:41 PM
If I'm a browns fan..Joe thomas.

Greg
04-28-2007, 12:45 PM
The team doctor is writing a prescription for antibiotics for Joe Thomas as we speak.

ladyraven127
04-28-2007, 12:59 PM
:rolling:

Big Meaty
04-28-2007, 06:41 PM
Some think Quinn is overrated and I tend to somewhat agree but the Browns landed 2 of the consensus top 5 players in this draft. Now, we won't know if the Quinn trade will work out for a while but I don't think it was a bad move. Savage gave up the same for Quinn as he did for Boller. Quinn is certainly more tested and ready for the NFL than Boller was. In addition, Boller was screaming up the draft boards while Quinn was falling, so Savage got more value. We'll see if he learned from the Boller debacle and let Quinn sit and learn for a year instead of rushing him in to get killed by the Ravens defense like the Ravens did with the Boller's opener in Pittsburgh. Nice way to begin a career - the beginning of the end is more like it.

I wonder if Thomas and Quinn can play both ways.

bassgtrst
04-28-2007, 08:41 PM
I think Quinn caught something from that Browns jersey he was holding.

They better pray that he pans out, they spent a lot on him.

Greg
04-28-2007, 09:29 PM
Savage gave up the same for Quinn as he did for Boller.
Not true. A first and a second but the second was much higher in the round and the first more than likely will be. And that was to get Boller a slot or two higher than Quinn. Savage spent quite a bit more to move up less spots but the Cowboys had Savage by the short hairs, KC was probably going to get him.

It was a nice round for the Browns but they invested heavily. Couch was a sure fire hit and how many others were as well? We'll see.

Greg
04-28-2007, 10:33 PM
Boller ranker a notch or two above Quinn.....UH...not exactly.
I'm sorry, you quoted my post so I am assuming you are responding to it but I can't see where I claimed Boller was rated higher than Quinn. Let me re-read my take...nope, I didn't.

We traded picks of lesser value to get a higher draft slots (1 or 2 places) to get Boller. I never mentioned how either was rated. We used less to get Boller. That was my take.

psuasskicker
04-28-2007, 11:53 PM
FWIW we won't know if we invested less till next year. Right now it looks like it, but not a lock. We were thought to be a sure-fire top 10 pick that next season as well. Instead we picked what, 19? I don't remember what NE got exactly...

Regardless, Quinn was a far bigger prospect than Boller was, so it makes sense they gave up more to get him, especially with competition over it since we were in the mix. And yeah the Browns invested heavily, but anyone who says they wouldn't give up a #3, #36, and first rounder next year for Quinn and Thomas has to be certifiably insane.

The Browns had a fantastic day today. The best of any team, and it's not even close.

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PurpleRulz
04-29-2007, 05:55 AM
The Browns had a fantastic day today. The best of any team, and it's not even close.

- C -

I thought the same thing when we drafted both Suggs and Boller back in 2003.

I see Eli Manning success for Quinn and nothing more. He is just a product of the media hype machine: a curly brown haired white boy that the little girls like who also has a famous NFL name "Brady." (As in Tom Brady). He'll be okay, but not elite, and maybe that is good enough for the Stains. We'll see.

ravenwoman
04-29-2007, 07:47 AM
I think Brady Quinn is overrated as I saw him here in person at the Notre Dame/Navy game. He did not impress me. Cleveland was the only team selling their soul to get him. Crennell's job (and Phil Savage's) is on the line this year. If you read any articles coming out of Cleveland, they are ready to hang them both if this year doesn't show significant improvement.

It doesn't matter how high a player is rated, the true market of the player is determined at the time of the pick. It's like selling a house. What you get is what its worth.

psuasskicker
04-29-2007, 10:08 AM
Of course we'll see how well these picks pan out down the line. I happen to think Quinn is the kind of QB who can come in this year and hang a QB rating around 80, but over the course of his career will never be a better than 85 passer. Will that be worth it? Could be...it wouldn't make him a franchise guy but it'd make him an adequate starter for a long time.

Doesn't matter for today though, and the Browns won the day today easily. We had a great day when we got Suggs and Boller, but Quinn is head and shoulders a better prospect than Boller and Thomas is a bit better prospect than Suggs was at the time.

Tell me you wouldn't be absolutely thrilled if the Ravens pulled off what the Browns pulled off and wound up with both Thomas and Quinn, plus Eric Wright who's a shut-down corner who has some off-field problems. Such a huge day for that team.

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