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festivus

04-26-2007, 10:02 AM

The Ravens are reportedly interested in this (http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/2007/beck_john) quarterback from BYU.

According to DF, the Ravens believe he may go as early as Detroit at 35. Could he be ours at 29? The write-up makes him sound like an excellent guy to have in the fold and develop for a year or two behind McNair. Elsewhere I saw him projected as a mid-rounder but the linked description sounds like someone who might ordinarily go in the 2d.

John Beck = QOTF? Maybe. . .

jonboy79

04-26-2007, 10:40 AM

He's older then Boller... I like himm most as QB after Russell, and Quinn, but not as a first rounder. I liked hm more when I thoght he'd be a 4th rounder. Now I'll jump back on Stanton or Kolb. I do not want a QB taken before 61 unless it involves a trade-back. and an additional FIRST DAY pick.

festivus

04-26-2007, 10:50 AM

The age doesn't bother me, unless he's been playing for those extra years, which he hasn't. Besides the age, what's the drawback?

Concerning when he's taken - it appears he is no longer a 4th rounder.

Comparisons to Boller are of course going to come, but would be inappropriate. Beck has a high completion percentage and has been successful for several years in a pro-style offense. He is in a way everything Boller was *not*, coming out of college. Accurate, calm, accomplished, the one thing he apparently lacks is Kyle's ability to throw the ball 2000 yards while standing on his head.

I leave it to the FO & their track record, but I won't be disappointed if they take Beck at 29.

GreenWave52

04-26-2007, 01:35 PM

I'm a big Beck fan and I won't be upset if we take him at 29 (because he would have to be the BPA on our board), but I would have preferred him with our round 2 pick (for a while I thought we could get him even later). With the way he has been skyrocketing lately I don't know if it will be possible.

I actually think we may be better off waiting for a QB in next years superior draft.

RavensNTerps

04-26-2007, 01:40 PM

Huge fan of John Beck. Wouldn't mind Kolb in 3 or lower. Wouldn't mind Jordan Palmer on the 2nd day. Would stay away from Drew Stanton like a chick with no pants with Ron Mexico.

GreenWave52

04-26-2007, 01:59 PM

Huge fan of John Beck. Wouldn't mind Kolb in 3 or lower. Wouldn't mind Jordan Palmer on the 2nd day. Would stay away from Drew Stanton like a chick with no pants with Ron Mexico.

I've seen Jordan Palmer play a couple times. Lets just say he is the Brent Gretzky to Carson's Wayne Gretzky. Or in acting terms he would be Frank Stallone.

Drew Stanton reminds me of Kyle in their style of play (inconsistent and frustrating to watch), but I wouldn't mind taking him if he was still on the board after the 2nd round. The value would be there.

Sports Steve

04-26-2007, 05:04 PM

Would really like to pick up Jorden Palmer on the second day.

:jester: :jester:

RavensNTerps

04-26-2007, 05:59 PM

I've seen Jordan Palmer play a couple times. Lets just say he is the Brent Gretzky to Carson's Wayne Gretzky. Or in acting terms he would be Frank Stallone.

Drew Stanton reminds me of Kyle in their style of play (inconsistent and frustrating to watch), but I wouldn't mind taking him if he was still on the board after the 2nd round. The value would be there.

I know. That is why I wouldn't spend more than a 5th round pick on him. He's a better prospect then guys like Josh Harris or Drew Olsen were.

Drew Stanton isn't even kyle boller. I can't even compare them. Stanton is just an underacheiver who seems to not care.

ExiledRaven

04-27-2007, 10:09 AM

This is the time of year where everything is a lie, but check out the linked-to article from A. Wilson

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?S=118#S=118&F=1666&T=452713

I'm not saying anything about the contents, but this could just big time interest or just the Ravens messing with the Lions who have been quoted all over (or is that a lie too) as to really wanting Beck in the second: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6735038

Beck is probably my favorite of the QBs after Quinn and Russel...even if he is 26, he could be on the field at 27 and play for 5-6 years. Obviously not as good as getting the 21 year old prodigy, but you can't always get the best all the time.

Any thoughts?

TL24x7

04-27-2007, 10:22 AM

I like Beck as well and agree with you on his outlook. But I would NOT spend a two on him. That's reaching and I don't think the Ravens will reach...

That said, good analysis here QB's (http://www.profootball24x7.com/column_view.php?cid=50&id=1324&view=archive)

There is analysis regarding the Ravens outlook and links to video on QB's the Ravens might consider.

UKRavenStockers

04-27-2007, 11:23 AM

Beck has come in late this week, the name I was hearing everything with us about before now had been Trent Edwards. Neuheisel loves Edwards, went out to see his workout in person etc.

As per usual I couldn't even guess what direction we're looking in, Ozzie really does keep his cards closer to his chest than anyone, will be interesting looking at how things workout tomorrow, and now all my coursework is done I can really look forward to it :)

Bez513

04-27-2007, 11:52 AM

Fanman

04-27-2007, 12:13 PM

I would be shocked if anyone took this guy on day 1. If he is there in the
4th round then I can see the Ravens taking a flier on this guy. It would def mean Olsen is done...what does it do or not do for Boller?

FM

section553

04-27-2007, 12:30 PM

No way do you take this guy on day one, and definately not in the first round. As for Olsen, he isnt the answer and Boller and the Ravens, they most likely cant wait for that chapter in their respective lives to be over. I think it will be a spit that both sides cant wait to happen.

highwater

04-27-2007, 02:31 PM

I wouldn't mind drafting Beck but NOT IN THE FIRST ROUND! I'm all in favor of BPA but come on, this year I'd prefer to draft a player that could help the team fairly soon, while guys like Ogden and McNair are still here. Beck does not fall into that category.

Art-Florida

04-27-2007, 02:43 PM

Drafting ANY quarterback this year is a waste of a draft choice. Probably the least harmful would be to take Jordan Palmer, in like, the 7th round. He could contest with Drew Olson for coffee and doughnut fetcher.

Next year, on the other hand, has Colt Brennan - the only guy I want to see coming in and competing head to head with Kyle Boller. In order for that to happen though, the Ravens better start stocking up on draft choices, becaus Brennan, barring a calamity, is probably going to be top Five in 2008.

McNair will most likely do OK this season, he may even do VERY well, but that arm is hurting now, and not going to get stronger. Even Pennington might beat Steve in an armstrength contest if it were held today. Nevertheless, I think Steve has one more decent year left. Two? Uh uh.

GreenWave52

04-27-2007, 06:32 PM

Everyone who says Beck isn't a first day pick hasn't been paying attention to any recent rankings. Most people have a second round grade on him.

UKRavenStockers

04-27-2007, 06:53 PM

Everyone who says Beck isn't a first day pick hasn't been paying attention to any recent rankings. Most people have a second round grade on him.

Correct. He, Edwards and Kolb are riding the usual wave of the 2nd tier QBs up the boards as draftniks get wind of what teams are looking at late in the day. I'd say the order for these three is probably Edwards, Kolb, Beck. Though obviously different teams will have different ranks and what is smoke screens and what isn't remains to be seen. Roll on tomorrow :)

PurpleRulz

04-28-2007, 09:35 AM

I think the Jon Beck talk is just a smoke screen to maybe coax the Lions into a trade. The Lions would be the perfect team to trade back with. We could then take Justin Blalock with that pick.

ExiledRaven

04-28-2007, 11:00 AM

I think i'll eat my own shorts if we pick Blalock....if we're picking a G it had better be Grubbs.

jonboy79

04-28-2007, 05:00 PM

There should be no more talk of QB's in the first round If teams liked Beck or Edwards at the bottom of the first, they would have had more interest in Quinn in the late teens.