Peyton Manning post game disappearing act

[Fanman]

Correct me if I am wrong here, but after the game I did not see Manning shake the hands of any Saints players or coaches. I saw him walking off the field w/ his helmet still on.

Did anyone see video of him shaking hands w/ Sean Payton or Drew Brees?
Pretty low class is he just bolted off the field.

FM

[RavenScallywag]

I wasn't paying attention, but I think most of the Colts just walked off the sideline to the locker room. The Saints were busy celebrating with each other.

[Mista T]

He's an asshole, not worthy of being Archie's son. I enjoyed that shot of Manning sulking down the sidelines with his head down as one of the highlights of the evening.

I wonder if the "journalists" who were touting Manning as being better than Johnny Unitas will crawl out of their holes anytime soon. :girlfight

[braven98]

He was too busy tell Jimmy to cut stover for missing the Fg ..he is freakin chump. 9-9 now in the post season

[Fanman]

I think its very disappointing to see such a lack of sportsmanship from one of the league's premier players.

Funny, how Favre and Manning now have less than stellar post-season records.

You still have a long way to go to get in the circle w/ Unitas and Montana.

FM

[UKRavenStockers]

I could honestly care less. He's just thrown a crappy pick, he's disappointed & angry at losing in a Superbowl and he just wants to get out of there. It's the coach's responsibility to go do the obligatory handshake, if the players don't feel like it and just want to get in the showers & out of the stadium that's their decision, I don't for a second see it as a lack of sportsmanship.

[Big Bird]

UKRAVENSTOCKERS - You gotta be shittin us!! Have you never heard of

post-game sportsmanship???

:ref:

[Fanman]

Well UKRaven....I 100% disagree w/ your view on this and I think most other fans would as well. These are grown men, its not the coach's job to make sure they display some sportsmanship. This isn't rec league.

FM

[purplepoe]

I saw him running off and I thought of a few things.

Does anyone recall what has happened during past Super Bowls with the losing players, most notably the star players? Did Kurt Warner shake hands with Ben R. or other Steeler players? Did Brady with Eli or Giants players?

The reason I ask is because the ending of the Super Bowl is unlike the ending to other games. Immediately after the clock runs out the stage is set up for the trophy ceremoney and the winning players are inundated with media, friends, and family. Much moreso than after any other game.

PP

[HoustonRaven]

I agree that Manning's persona as this good guy is over hyped, plenty of players walk off the field after the super bowl.

It's not a function of them being unsportsmanlike. Rather, it's a function of the sheer chaos that occurs after the end if the game. They simply want / need to get out of there so the post game stuff can go down with the winning team.

[sailorsam]

I think SB protocol is loser visits winner's locker room afterward.

I've never heard anything negative about Peyton's sportsmanship before this.

[UKRavenGordon]

This is like the whole 'Ray doesn't talk after a loss'.

Didn't Manning talk post game about how great a play Porter had made to pick him off? And he also blamed himself for making the throw as opposed to blaming any of his team mates.

Cut the guy some slack.

[camdenyard]

I thought it was ironic...not long before the Pick 6, the cameras were on Manning lecturing his OL. Before that, he was throwing towels and shit after Stover missed the FG.

After the pick, Manning looked like he wanted to find a rock to crawl under.

I loved it :thumbup:

[mikek]

Its common for the SB losers to just exit the field without shaking hands. The winning team is too busy celebrating and collecting trophies to be bothered by the losers.

This was not a lack of sportsmanship, just business as usual.

[UKRavenStockers]

Well UKRaven....I 100% disagree w/ your view on this and I think most other fans would as well. These are grown men, its not the coach's job to make sure they display some sportsmanship. This isn't rec league.

FM

You're right, it's not the coach's job to make sure the players show sportsmanship. But walking off without shaking hands isn't showing disrespect to your opponents. In that situation I'm walking off the field too, let them have their time to celebrate and I'll give them their due kudos after the game (as Manning has) if I'm asked. I'm not gonna call out every player who's ever left a game head bowed without offering congratulations to the oppo there & then, just doesn't strike me as poor sportsmanship. Indifference is not poor sportsmanship, disrespect is poor sportsmanship, I don't see what Manning did as being disrespectful.

[Fanman]

I get the SB is hectic and all that and I bet Manning did go to the Saints locker room sometime after the game. But I recall Favre and Brees shaking hands after the NCF title game.

I get I am in the minority here, but being a good sport is not about the stage on which the game is played....its about the spirit of the competition.

FM

[ravensnhokies]

Peyton did say in his post game interview that it was the Saints place to celebrate and not really necessary for him to stay and congratulate Brees. Sure it was a convenient excuse but I would have probably done the same thing if I just lost the game b/c I threw a horrible pick 6. If he did go congratulate Brees in the locker room, I see no problem with his behavior. Was it confirm if Manning did indeed visit the Saints locker room?

[purplepoe]

I get the SB is hectic and all that and I bet Manning did go to the Saints locker room sometime after the game. But I recall Favre and Brees shaking hands after the NCF title game.

I get I am in the minority here, but being a good sport is not about the stage on which the game is played....its about the spirit of the competition.

FM

Again, the NFC Champ and Super Bowl are completely different situations.

I really don't recall any losing QB congratulating the winning team after the Super Bowl.

I think it's stand operating procedure for the losing team to exit and the winning team to take over the field with celebration.

PP

[RAVENOUS52]

I don't have a problem with Manning's sportsmanship at all.

He did the right thing by letting Brees have his moment in the sun alone.

Let's hope Flacco can have his time to shine in the SuperBowl one day!

Watching the Saints win last nice has really made me hungry for another championship parade in Baltimore...

[Sua Sponte]

I don't give a shit either way, Manning is a good QB but I can't stand his ass. Football is a mans game and although probably smart to extend his career, i hate when he drops like a sack of potatoes when a pass rush gets near him or just throws the ball away.

And to add to sportsmanship, he should atleast shack Brees hand, but the guy is just a Snob.
I hand a buddy that was on the Color Guard (Bring the Flags out) and was on the side line after a game still in his Military Service Uniform and walked right up to Manning after the game (he lost) and asked him to sign a ball and Manning just looked at him and totally snubbed him and walked away. If you think you are to good to take 10 seconds out of your walk to the locker room to acknowledge a Military Service Member that stands up and fights for the country then F**k You. The guy is a Snob.

[NC Raven]

Agree with those who say that at the SB, the likely protocol is get off the field - security, post-game crap, etc. I don't know for sure, but I could see good reasons for just hustling the losing team off in that situation.

That said, Manning has always been a "blame the teammates" kind of guy, and that churlish kind of behavior you saw, reacting to the missed FG, etc. has long been typical of him.

After the pick 6, which he threw right into the defender's hands, he didn't point at himself and indicate "my bad". No, never have I seen that. He's the first to shit on his linemen if they let him get touched, and he's the first to blame the WR when there's a pick. He's Dan Marino II, all the way around. Stats, stats, stats, weak leadership, occasional success in an important game. Though I give him credit, like Marino, he is one of the best regular-season QBs of all time.

[UKRavenStockers]

Agree with those who say that at the SB, the likely protocol is get off the field - security, post-game crap, etc. I don't know for sure, but I could see good reasons for just hustling the losing team off in that situation.

That said, Manning has always been a "blame the teammates" kind of guy, and that churlish kind of behavior you saw, reacting to the missed FG, etc. has long been typical of him.

After the pick 6, which he threw right into the defender's hands, he didn't point at himself and indicate "my bad". No, never have I seen that. He's the first to shit on his linemen if they let him get touched, and he's the first to blame the WR when there's a pick. He's Dan Marino II, all the way around. Stats, stats, stats, weak leadership, occasional success in an important game. Though I give him credit, like Marino, he is one of the best regular-season QBs of all time.

Boo-****ing-hoo! I could give a damn about how that appears, he knows it's his fault, his team-mates know it's his fault. Why does he need to make an overt show of displaying that it's his fault? When do you ever see Manning get in someone's ear about something? He goes over and discusses negative plays with players, see what they read differently why the play didn't break as it's meticulously planned. It's an attention to detail and process for rectifying negative plays that is the reason why the Colts offence is so good. The Colts simply aren't an emotional team and I can see why they grate other teams & their fans, particularly Manning & the offence. They're not looking to get annoyed and "up" for a game, they're looking at everything rationally and working out why plays break against them beyond someone "wanting it more". To me that's an admirable way to build a team and an offence, I can't think of a QB I'd rather have at the helm than Manning.

[corvuscorax]

When Brady & the Pats lost to the Giants a couple years back, he was the poutiest-looking QB I've ever seen. Manning didn't come close to that.

I pretty much agree that after the SB, the losers should just slink away and let the winners celebrate their collective ass off. Maybe visit the locker room later, or even make a phone call sometime within the next couple days.

Also, here's a quote from Manning's post game interview:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=tsn-coltsqbpeytonmanning&prov=tsn&type=lgns
"SN: Why did you leave the field immediately after the game without congratulating Brees?
PM: I’ll certainly talk to Drew. There’s not much consolation for the guys that didn’t win. There’s the stage that’s being set up, and the celebration, and it’s time for the Saints to celebrate. It’s their field. They deserve the moment. I will speak to Drew Brees, speak to Sean Payton."

[purplepoe]

Boo-****ing-hoo! I could give a damn about how that appears, he knows it's his fault, his team-mates know it's his fault. Why does he need to make an overt show of displaying that it's his fault? When do you ever see Manning get in someone's ear about something? He goes over and discusses negative plays with players, see what they read differently why the play didn't break as it's meticulously planned. It's an attention to detail and process for rectifying negative plays that is the reason why the Colts offence is so good. The Colts simply aren't an emotional team and I can see why they grate other teams & their fans, particularly Manning & the offence. They're not looking to get annoyed and "up" for a game, they're looking at everything rationally and working out why plays break against them beyond someone "wanting it more". To me that's an admirable way to build a team and an offence, I can't think of a QB I'd rather have at the helm than Manning.

I agree 100%.

It's almost as if people don't see what every other QB does in this league and decide that Manning is some problem child.

Whatever.

I'm glad the Colts lost because I hate that team.

However, this campaign to relentlessly bash Peyton Manning reeks.

Joe Flacco got into a cursing match with Cam Cameron during the game at Indy.

BFD.

PP

[RavensDomination]

However, this campaign to relentlessly bash Peyton Manning reeks.

Nothing more than an old grudge rearing its ugly head...over and over and over again.

[Mista T]

However, this campaign to relentlessly bash Peyton Manning reeks.

Maybe ... but weren't you getting a little sick of ESPN annointing him as Saint Peyton? I sure was. Good QB: yes. Best of this decade? Arguably, but Brady has more rings, Favre more success (carrying over from the 90s), and right now Brees looks to be the best passer.

The media hyping of Manning to be in the same league as Unitas and Montana, who actually led their teams to multiple Super Bowls, was premature. Even Bart Starr and dumb-as-bricks Terry Bradshaw led their teams to greater success than Manning.

I'm happy to see Manning brought back to earth, for a few months, anyway. (Especially since he is wearing a stolen uniform!!!)

[purplepoe]

Maybe ... but weren't you getting a little sick of ESPN annointing him as Saint Peyton? I sure was. Good QB: yes. Best of this decade? Arguably, but Brady has more rings, Favre more success (carrying over from the 90s), and right now Brees looks to be the best passer.

The media hyping of Manning to be in the same league as Unitas and Montana, who actually led their teams to multiple Super Bowls, was premature. Even Bart Starr and dumb-as-bricks Terry Bradshaw led their teams to greater success than Manning.

I'm happy to see Manning brought back to earth, for a few months, anyway. (Especially since he is wearing a stolen uniform!!!)

Ted

Im sick of pretty much everything ESPN does.

All I'm saying is that Manning did nothing different than any other QB does after he loses a SB.

As far as who is the best QB of all time or of the decade?

I've given up on debating stuff like that.

PP

[StingerNLG]

ESPN? They still around? :)

It's easy to take care of dealing with how ESPN treats Manning, don't watch. The SB was over, I went to bed.

And really, what did Manning say that wasn't true? He threw a bad pick, and there were some key drops in the game by Garcon and Wayne. It is what it is.

I think some of the hate in Baltimore for Manning is because he is a Colt, and the lingering hate for the Colts claims him as a casualty of it. The guy isn't evil, egotistical, or talks like he's better than anyone else. And he's ALWAYS been respectful of the Baltimore Colts legacy.

I'm glad the Saints won, but Manning didn't do anything really unsportsmanlike after the game.

[HoustonRaven]

ESPN? They still around? :)

It's easy to take care of dealing with how ESPN treats Manning, don't watch. The SB was over, I went to bed.

And really, what did Manning say that wasn't true? He threw a bad pick, and there were some key drops in the game by Garcon and Wayne. It is what it is.

I think some of the hate in Baltimore for Manning is because he is a Colt, and the lingering hate for the Colts claims him as a casualty of it. The guy isn't evil, egotistical, or talks like he's better than anyone else. And he's ALWAYS been respectful of the Baltimore Colts legacy.

I'm glad the Saints won, but Manning didn't do anything really unsportsmanlike after the game.

Agreed 100%

And I will add that Manning was very complimentary of the Saints D during the presser after the game. I am not sure where people are getting this "he blames everyone but himself" stuff.

[Big Bird]

Guys and Gals, this "Indy" Colts hatred stuff will continue until and maybe well after those of us who remember the Baltimore Colts are buried.

Manning is OK. That is until he puts on that B'more Colts uniform. Then he
is a piece of sh-t!! Same with the HOF team records. It was the Baltimore
Colts, (not any other Colts) who contributed so heavily to "The greatest game ever played".

As much as we ole B'more dudes love our Ravens, our Colts will never be
forgotten. For some of us, that goes back to Y.A. Tittle throwing to Billy Hillenbrand in the Green and Gray
at the single deck 33rd street field, later to be namd as Memorial Stadium.

Go Ravens!!!

:patriot:

[trailhiker85]

Maybe ... but weren't you getting a little sick of ESPN annointing him as Saint Peyton? I sure was. Good QB: yes. Best of this decade? Arguably, but Brady has more rings, Favre more success (carrying over from the 90s), and right now Brees looks to be the best passer.

The media hyping of Manning to be in the same league as Unitas and Montana, who actually led their teams to multiple Super Bowls, was premature. Even Bart Starr and dumb-as-bricks Terry Bradshaw led their teams to greater success than Manning.




Agreed. While I'm not a fan of Peyton Manning, I have nothing against him personally. He's certainly among the best QB's of modern times. But a lot of us are tired of the hype, and maybe this "best of all time" stuff will quiet down for a while. No one can say who is the best of all time ...there are just too many subjective factors.

As to him walking off the field without shaking hands, that too is being over-hyped. It's not significant in and of itself. You have to put it in context with his other post game comments/actions as well as the venue itself. I can't fault him for merely looking disappointed and walking off under the circumstances.

[CoverD]

I agree that Manning's persona as this good guy is over hyped, plenty of players walk off the field after the super bowl.

It's not a function of them being unsportsmanlike. Rather, it's a function of the sheer chaos that occurs after the end if the game. They simply want / need to get out of there so the post game stuff can go down with the winning team.

Mike Wilbon said something similar on PTI. He said that there are so many people from the NFL sprinting out there to get a stage setup in a matter of minutes, as well as reporters, that its almost impossible for Peyton to have gotten to anyone.

In a regular season game it would've been a reason to call out Peyton, but not in the Super Bowl. That's why Brady and Belichick are called out all the time.

[Mwjergs]

I don't really see it as a huge deal either. He was upset that he choked on the largest stage their is and he just wanted to get out of there. It was reported that he congratulated Brees and Payton in the locker room.

The problem most people have is how that behavior is counter to the good guy persona that is portrayed in the media and on his trillion commercials.

Fact is he's always had a rough attitude throughout his career. He yells at teammates, and would publicly call out lineman's mistakes. His reaction to Stover's FG miss was priceless. Some people see that as being a great competitor and others see that as being somewhat dickish. I think it's a bit of both. As long he takes responsibility for his own faults it's okay.

I did want to bring this up though. We went through a similar scenario when LeBron James left the scene after his Cavs lost to the Magic. James was slammed in the press because of this. Yet I don't see the media outcry on Manning like I did with him. If anyone can point out some examples and provide links I'd appreciate it. The only place I read anyone questioning Manning was Yahoo Sports.

[Mista T]

Mike Wilbon said something similar on PTI. He said that there are so many people from the NFL sprinting out there to get a stage setup in a matter of minutes, as well as reporters, that its almost impossible for Peyton to have gotten to anyone.

In a regular season game it would've been a reason to call out Peyton, but not in the Super Bowl. That's why Brady and Belichick are called out all the time.

What Wilbon and other Manning apologists are side-stepping is the fact that many other Irsay-franchise players did take a few minutes to congratulate Saints players on the field, simultaneously with the chaos on the field. Why did these linemen, special teams players, etc. find the time to act like good sports, while the $100 milion dollar man gets a free pass by Wilbon and some others for sulking off the field?

[purplepoe]

What Wilbon and other Manning apologists are side-stepping is the fact that many other Irsay-franchise players did take a few minutes to congratulate Saints players on the field, simultaneously with the chaos on the field. Why did these linemen, special teams players, etc. find the time to act like good sports, while the $100 milion dollar man gets a free pass by Wilbon and some others for sulking off the field?

Come on Ted.

It's been said over and over that this happens during every Super Bowl.

Ill ask again. Did you see Brady or Warner congratulate anyone after the prior two Super Bowls?

PP

[purplepoe]

I don't really see it as a huge deal either. He was upset that he choked on the largest stage their is and he just wanted to get out of there. It was reported that he congratulated Brees and Payton in the locker room.

The problem most people have is how that behavior is counter to the good guy persona that is portrayed in the media and on his trillion commercials.

Fact is he's always had a rough attitude throughout his career. He yells at teammates, and would publicly call out lineman's mistakes. His reaction to Stover's FG miss was priceless. Some people see that as being a great competitor and others see that as being somewhat dickish. I think it's a bit of both. As long he takes responsibility for his own faults it's okay.

I did want to bring this up though. We went through a similar scenario when LeBron James left the scene after his Cavs lost to the Magic. James was slammed in the press because of this. Yet I don't see the media outcry on Manning like I did with him. If anyone can point out some examples and provide links I'd appreciate it. The only place I read anyone questioning Manning was Yahoo Sports.

It's because what LeBron did was completely out of the ordinary and pretty obvious.

The Super Bowl is a completely different animal.

PP

[Mwjergs]

It's because what LeBron did was completely out of the ordinary and pretty obvious.

The Super Bowl is a completely different animal.

PP

What did LeBron do that was completely out of the ordinary? He walked off the court after his team was eliminated in the championship series and did not congratulate the team that beat him.

Sure the Super Bowl is different as an event, how it's covered and it's importance to the even the average fan. But I need you to clarify your point.

[Mista T]

Did you see Brady or Warner congratulate anyone after the prior two Super Bowls?

PP

No idea. But, assuming that you are right: I don't think QBs should be excused from basic sportsmanship taught to all Little Leaguers.

[effo5231]

No idea. But, assuming that you are right: I don't think QBs should be excused from basic sportsmanship taught to all Little Leaguers.

But since its been established that he did personally congratulate the Saints off the field in the locker room immediately post game, how was he being unsporting by simply getting away from the massive production the NFL turns that field into immediately after the game ends?

I'm reminded of the whole "tis better to pray in a closet than on the street corner" bit. Surely what matters is that Manning took the time to shake Brees' and Coach Payton's hands, not whether or not he chose to take that time on national TV.