Donte Stallworth

[Dragz]

It looks like the Browns are going to release Stallworth after he is reinstated by Goodell. He'll probably come very cheap and I think that Coach Harbaugh is into the redemption stories. Should we not be able to make a BIG splash in the FA market, does anyone think that the FO would bring him in?

[RavenScallywag]

I haven't followed his story very closely after he plead guilty...has he done much to help out the family of the man who was killed? Has he shown any remorse or "repetence" for his actions?

If so, I would absolutely take a cheap flier on him. If he's not done much, I think he needs to make a big leap and show he's reformed before we take a shot.

[Dragz]

I know that there was a financial settlement between he and the family. Aside from that I have no idea what he has done for them. He got such a light sentence, partially because the family plead his case to the judge. I think that he would be an upgrade over Mark Clayton, to say the least.

[Dade]

I haven't followed his story very closely after he plead guilty...has he done much to help out the family of the man who was killed? Has he shown any remorse or "repetence" for his actions?

If so, I would absolutely take a cheap flier on him. If he's not done much, I think he needs to make a big leap and show he's reformed before we take a shot.

I remember reading an article that said before he went to the big house he became real close with the family. So much so that they pleaded for him at his sentencing.

I think he has shown alot of repetence. he never tried to make any excuses for what happen.

He'll be real cheap. So yeah I would be in favor of seeing him in purple and black.

[baltimore_hokie]

But he wasn't good before he killed somebody. Now that he has killed a man, been in jail, and been cut from one of the worst teams in the NFL, we should look at him now? No thanks.

[Dragz]

But he wasn't good before he killed somebody. Now that he has killed a man, been in jail, and been cut from one of the worst teams in the NFL, we should look at him now? No thanks.

The whole "killing a man, being in jail" thing has nothing to do with his talent. Would you honestly say that he wouldn't be an upgrade, when compared to DWill or Clayton? Being cut by the Browns has nothing to do with his on the field prowess either, its a PR move. The NFL isn't full of angels, if it was, it'd be a boring league. People make mistakes (I think he shoulda got a WAY LONGER sentence) and nobody is beyond forgiveness. If the family has forgiven him, who are we to pass judgement? Its about making the team better and personally, I think his talent could be a good asset.

[NC Raven]

Two things:

(1) Anybody who's out drunk off his ass (IIRC he was 2 times the legal limit) at 7:30 in the MORNING has a major alcohol problem. I'm not saying he can't rehab or get better, but to say the least, somebody who literally stays out all night drinking isn't living life the right way. That kind of drinking has a negative impact on anybody, I don't care how young, athletic, or whatever they are. He needs to show a long time away from those kinds of habits for me to feel comfortable that he's going to be 100% helping this team. Maybe he's already doing that, I don't know. I'll believe it when I see it.

(2) not everybody bounces back from something like this. In the past, he would unquestionably have been an upgrade. At this point, I think he's a guy you invite to camp. If another team wants to throw guaranteed money at him, that's their prerogative. I wouldn't have a lot of interest in becoming that team, unless he goes to some kind of private tryout and wows the heck out of everybody. So far I haven't heard anything about his condition, and am curious to hear more. Till then, again, I'll believe it when I see it.

[Dade]

(1) Anybody who's out drunk off his ass (IIRC he was 2 times the legal limit) at 7:30 in the MORNING has a major alcohol problem. I'm not saying he can't rehab or get better, but to say the least, somebody who literally stays out all night drinking isn't living life the right way. That kind of drinking has a negative impact on anybody, I don't care how young, athletic, or whatever they are. He needs to show a long time away from those kinds of habits for me to feel comfortable that he's going to be 100% helping this team. Maybe he's already doing that, I don't know. I'll believe it when I see it.


Thats not really fair. Now if he repeatly acted that way I would agree with you. He would need help. But just about everybody has had at least 1 all nighter.

Personally I've had more than a few all nighters. Us in uniform know how to drink! LOL!

[baltimore_hokie]

The whole "killing a man, being in jail" thing has nothing to do with his talent. Would you honestly say that he wouldn't be an upgrade, when compared to DWill or Clayton? Being cut by the Browns has nothing to do with his on the field prowess either, its a PR move. The NFL isn't full of angels, if it was, it'd be a boring league. People make mistakes (I think he shoulda got a WAY LONGER sentence) and nobody is beyond forgiveness. If the family has forgiven him, who are we to pass judgement? Its about making the team better and personally, I think his talent could be a good asset.

Seems like you're missing my point. I don't really care that he went to jail or killed a man or whatever. I care that he is not a good wide receiver.

[Beerracuda]

Stallworth is not a #1 receiver. Not even close. So, PASS.

[Aces2Bluff]

His career stats are not much different from clayton, plus clayton is younger.... Pass

[NC Raven]

Dade,I understand your point, but I've dealt with enough of this stuff in my lifetime to know that it is rarely the case that what happened was a one time thing. The odds are more likely it was more like a hundred time thing. That's the nature of the behavior, though I concede it could very well have been out of the ordinary for him. I don't know.

I didn't know his particular history, and still don't know it in any detail, but as it turns out, in running a few searches about him, he turns out to have been in the league's substance abuse program prior to the 2007 season. They don't say more than that, so it's not clear why he was in it or how it turned out. But I can't say I'm surprised. That he would have been through that already, and still been out pulling all nighters and driving home.... seems that whatever point the NFL Substance abuse program was trying to make with him did not register.

Aside from all that, I didn't realize just how much he's bounced around the NFL. New Orleans, New Englad, Philly, Cleveland..... and not yet turned 30 (he will be 30 this year). Plus a history of hamstring problems, to go with only 3 seasons of playing a full 16 games, out of 7 seasons in the league (not counting last season, which would have been his 8th had he not been suspended).

I'm all for people having second chances, and if he really show proof he's worthy of the chance, I'm fine with him having it, but something about him doesn't add up, and that's even without the dui/manslaughter accident. He's been hurt a lot, and he's bounced around a lot, and maybe he's one of those guys who's more hype than productivity. His stats don't look all that better than Clayton's (compare Stallworth 06 to Clayton 05, for example), and probably the only difference between him and Clayton is he's played his career in better passing offenses.

My guess is some team that's more desperate than the Ravens, and not nearly as well run and organized, will jump up and overpay him more than what the Ravens would be willing to do.

[Dade]

Good counter NC. Maybe your right. There must have been a good reason for him to have been in the league's substance abuse program. Or maybe their wasn't. Once I was out at a bar with some fellow Airmen. Got into a fight with a Marine who called me the "N" word. Now I was no where near drunk, but because the alcohol was involved I had to go to ADAPT (Alcohol Drug Abuse Prevention Treatment).

Not trying to make excuses for him. Just saying we don't have all the details. Which is often the case when celebrities get into trouble. If he's truely remorsefull, the family has forgiven him and he's paid his debt to society, then he's got no beef from me.

Interesting to know he has bounced around alot teams in only a few years. Now that says ALOT about his playing ability.

I want Ozzie to completely redo this WR core. I would have no problem bringing in Donte for cheap to camp to see what he has, if any.

[Carey]

But he wasn't good before he killed somebody. Now that he has killed a man, been in jail, and been cut from one of the worst teams in the NFL, we should look at him now? No thanks.

Pretty much sums it up

[Raveninwoodlawn]

But he wasn't good before he killed somebody. Now that he has killed a man, been in jail, and been cut from one of the worst teams in the NFL, we should look at him now? No thanks.

Thank you, Thank you.

While I certainly wouldn't be opposed to him coming in under a very cheap contract, any thoughts that he would be "the answer" for us at WR is pretty rediculous IMHO. He has never gotten to 1,000 yards, is always hurt, and no team has thought enough of him to keep him long.

Now, he has one thing that our other WR's don't have...and that's very good speed, but he isn't good at running routes and getting open. For all his speed, (I think he ran a 4.3 40 at his combine), he doesn't make many big plays.

I'd take him, but I'd have to have a strong #1 WR and even good competition for that #2 spot.

[srobert96]

I would be very concerned if they signed Stallworth. He has never been more than a complimentary receiver. If they signed Mason and Stallworth the receiving corp still would not cut it as neither are a #1 wr.

[jonboy79]

I would be very concerned if they signed Stallworth. He has never been more than a complimentary receiver. If they signed Mason and Stallworth the receiving corp still would not cut it as neither are a #1 wr.

There are only 10-15 #1 WR's in the world. I'd say fairly confidantly that we won't have one next year. Dwayne Bowe or Anquan Boldin are the only reasonable options, and some would consider them borderline.

I don't see a way that Ozzie and Harbaugh bring in Marshall. He really is not their type of man.

Stallwaorth could be part of a package that fills out our WR corps. At vet minimum he would be worht a tryout.

[trailhiker85]

Maybe Stallworth could be signed dirt cheap, but I don't see where he's really an upgrade over Clayton ...and yes, we're all cognizant of Mark's lack of production.

Stallworth never was ...and never will be ...a No. 1 receiver. I wouldn't completely rule out the idea for depth purposes if he costs next to nothing, but the fact is such a move would do little to address our WR needs. We've already got enough guys who can be a No. 3 or No. 4.

[Sua Sponte]

Two things:

(1) Anybody who's out drunk off his ass (IIRC he was 2 times the legal limit) at 7:30 in the MORNING has a major alcohol problem. I'm not saying he can't rehab or get better, but to say the least, somebody who literally stays out all night drinking isn't living life the right way. That kind of drinking has a negative impact on anybody, I don't care how young, athletic, or whatever they are. He needs to show a long time away from those kinds of habits for me to feel comfortable that he's going to be 100% helping this team. Maybe he's already doing that, I don't know. I'll believe it when I see it.

(2) not everybody bounces back from something like this. In the past, he would unquestionably have been an upgrade. At this point, I think he's a guy you invite to camp. If another team wants to throw guaranteed money at him, that's their prerogative. I wouldn't have a lot of interest in becoming that team, unless he goes to some kind of private tryout and wows the heck out of everybody. So far I haven't heard anything about his condition, and am curious to hear more. Till then, again, I'll believe it when I see it.


I don't agree with what he did and think he should have got a longer sentence, no doubt, but to say he was out drinking at 07:30 is probably incorrect.

I know that I use to party hard in the past, a few times past 7:30 (preakness, etc.) and have even went to sleep at around 4 or 5 and know damn well that when I woke up early to drag my ass home, even though I felt fine my Blood Acohol Level was probably still threw the roof.

He would probably be an upgrade at WR over a few guys and might be determined to come back strong (pending his character) but I still say no, he is not that good to take that risk and take that blow to the franchise name. Let him go to Philly.

[Thrall]

Not that good, with issues, I'll pass.