GAME THREAD - Ravens/Lions

[Sephy]

If this ain't a win, I quit. Lots of inactives for the Ravens, though. No Gaither, Reed, or Clayton. KW will start. Suggs will start. Barnes is active.

So we will see how things turn out. They really need to put the hurt on Culpepper in the rain. Either way - we'll be here. GO RAVENS!!

See you in 45.

[StingerNLG]

I hate to do this, but I'm sitting this game at home. A combination of new baby, bad weather, played a gig last night, and had to teach this morning, and I am happy to sit at home with the 73" screen and watch and hang out with my buds on 24x7.

So I'm in Seph! See you in 30.

[UKRavenGordon]

I'll be a few mins behind as always but I'll check in between scores and at the end of Q's. Hopefully they have to pass all day, Culpuppy dropping back with his small hands=FUMBLES!!!

[RavenScallywag]

The only negative I can see today is this could be the Miami game from 2 years ago. A game we're just expected to win outright. Lions will be fighting hard for this one for Jim Schwartz. Key injuries are going to really cause us to modify our game plan. We need to play smart, hard nosed football and make sure we get the win. Ugly game conditions today, so I'm guessing we will be running a lot.

[baltimore_hokie]

Uhhhh...is anybody else in the Frederick area and not have the game on TV??? What the fuck

[Stumpy]

Nice run Ray Rice!!!

[Flipping Birdie]

Have these announcers ever done this before?

[RavenDavey]

RICE!!!!

52yds

[StingerNLG]

I love you Ray Rice.

[Lee Van Cleef]

Detroit home fail is season fail. We need win.

[Mr OC]

Uhhhh...is anybody else in the Frederick area and not have the game on TV??? What the fuck

it's on Fox

[StingerNLG]

Ahhh fuck Ray Rice!!!

Twice in 2 weeks?????

[baltimore_hokie]

it's on Fox

Seinfeld is on FOX here, we are about to rip Comcast a new asshole about this.

[baltimore_hokie]

OK what the hell is going on??? The score is 2-0 us???

[TTRaven]

Roughing the passer? Are you kidding me!

[Flipping Birdie]

Ray rice fumbled at 2 yard line. Touchback. We intercepted a few plays later. B/s roughing the passer call

[StingerNLG]

Sigh, and a ticky tack flag. How can you not say the refs don't have it in for us?

[OriAl]

When will these idiots learn to hold the ball with two hands??

And now another penalty costs us a turnover. These guys are like the Wizards - do whatever it takes to lose.

[baltimore_hokie]

INT got called back because of the roughing the passer call??

[TTRaven]

Get Tavares Gooden off the field! He flat out sucks!

[Flipping Birdie]

INT got called back because of the roughing the passer call??

yes. follow play by play on nfl.com

[OriAl]

Ravens are allergic to the red zone.

[StingerNLG]

Thank you Zibs for saving Foxworth's ass on that pass to Calvin Johnson.

And how is it the fucking DETROIT LIONS are getting rush yards on us?

[baltimore_hokie]

yes. follow play by play on nfl.com

Yeah, I am but is has been all screwed up. It said we were up 2-0 and then the Lions had the ball.

This is BS, I don't see how we don't get the game on TV.

[Flipping Birdie]

It is b/s. I can't believe that fox 5 is showing reruns over playing the ravens game as secondary market.

[OriAl]

As commonly happens, we give away potential points, and give our opponent a chance at points. Fortunately, the kick was no good.

[Flipping Birdie]

What the hell was that? man, can mason cry.

[TTRaven]

These announcers are stupid as shit.

[Flipping Birdie]

These announcers are stupid as shit.

+1

[Lee Van Cleef]

These announcers are stupid as shit.

Just ask Terrell Pryce.

[BArellano]

The running game is looking good right now. Too bad we can't convert in the red zone. :grbac:

[Stumpy]

Whats the deal.... as soon as we hit the red zone everything gets ugly!

[StingerNLG]

Nice runs by Rice and McClain.

Can EITHER of these two numskulls in the booth get McClain's name right?

Layron, or Laron McClain.

Idiots.

[BArellano]

What's the deal with Flacco checking down to Rice EVERY @#$%ING TIME!!!!!!

[Stumpy]

at least Cundiff is good

[Sephy]

Finally found a really crappy stream for the game. Fits the conditions and play thus far.

[StingerNLG]

What's the deal with Flacco checking down to Rice EVERY @#$%ING TIME!!!!!!

Our offense has lost it's confidence and abilities. It's as simple as that.

Has Washington only been thrown to once today? And it was overthrown.

I'm trying to figure out which team is the Lions today. :(


AND a 19 yard run for the Lions. Wow.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

The failure of this defense to shut down the run this year compared to the last 10 has been shocking.

Kevin Smith just had almost 60 yards rushing in one quarter.

[StingerNLG]

I'm glad Culpepper can help us out with that lost snap.

[Lee Van Cleef]

Denver down 14 against Indy.
Houston up 24 against Seattle.
Miami up 14 againts Jax.

[Sephy]

All those results are GREAT for us. Except Houston - who we didn't really expect to lose to Seattle.

[Sephy]

MASON! The vet is tough!!

[Flipping Birdie]

That was awesome. I swear Mason is stronger when he's hurt.

[StingerNLG]

Holy fuck!! What a play by Mason!!!!!!

Wow!!!!

[TTRaven]

TD Mason!

[grayplay]

Mason got nailed right in the shoulder, I wouldn't be suprised if it is dislodged.

[TBOERaven16]

We should be rooting FOR the Pats, right?

[Sephy]

We should be rooting FOR the Pats, right?

Correct. Not good they are losing right now.

[UKRavenGordon]

What a play! Thats what we need Mase!

[OriAl]

Thank you, Detroit defenders, for taking each other out. Our offense needs that kind of help.

10-0.

[Flipping Birdie]

What the hell was Webb doing. Muscle Beach pose for an assist?

[StingerNLG]

Nice job covering your man again there Foxworth. You play 10 yards off the receiver, and he screws you on an in route you then cannot defend.

You are teh awesome.

[StingerNLG]

Anyone want to cover Dennis Northcutt?

Or the middle of the field?

[OriAl]

As usual, no QB pressure and no receiver coverage. Our pass defense is pathetic.

[Stumpy]

Anyone want to cover Dennis Northcutt?

Or the middle of the field?

I will, but from San Antonio, I might be too close. At least closer than Landry

[OriAl]

They're dominating our defense everywhere but the important place, the scoreboard.

[Sephy]

Ever since they switched to primarily zone, the pass coverage has improved, but they need pressure to do it successfully, and they aren't getting any. Except for Foxworth earlier, it isn't their fault totally.

[Purpleguy]

Is anyone watching Suggs? Half the time he is just standing in the middle of the field watching Culpepper throw the ball. Jruger is better than Suggs at this point.

[Sephy]

Ray Rice!! TD!!

[StingerNLG]

Touchdown Ray Rice Baby!!!!!

[TTRaven]

Ray Rice is going for 200+ yards today.

[Stumpy]

It's 3rd and 6, and that was close, why would you challenge?

[Stumpy]

2nd rate zebras

[StingerNLG]

My g-d. Just when you thought the refs couldn't get any worse.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

LMAO...this officiating crew is just awful.

[TTRaven]

Chris Carr makes a play!

[Sephy]

Daunte bein Daunte

[Stumpy]

Hey hey... Carr, nice pick and run

[StingerNLG]

Wow, look at Chris Carr with the interception!!

What's next? A play by Frank Walker?

seriously, every other DB on this team has an interception now, EXCEPT Foxworth.

[Sephy]

Rice has about a buck 50 already. Damn.

[4G63]

Just keep giving the ball to Ray RIIIIIICE!

[TTRaven]

Wow, look at Chris Carr with the interception!!

What's next? A play by Frank Walker?

seriously, every other DB on this team has an interception now, EXCEPT Foxworth.

Foxworth had an INT against Cleveland.

[Sephy]

Rice is EFFING RIDICULOUS.

[StingerNLG]

Unbelievable.

Ray Rice really is our only offense at this point. Flacco won't even look elswhere at this point.

[RavensInBrazil]

Ray Rice with 200 yards from scrimmage in the first half :eek:

[StingerNLG]

Foxworth had an INT against Cleveland.

Did he? I must have missed it.

[4G63]

Unbelievable.

Ray Rice really is our only offense at this point. Flacco won't even look elswhere at this point.

And thats a problem why? I think I understand what you're saying but you keep doing something until they stop you....

[StingerNLG]

See, look at that last pass. 4 wide, and from the second Flacco snapped the ball he was locked onto Rice. I realize we're up 17-3, but damnit we need to spread the ball around.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Wow, look at Chris Carr with the interception!!

What's next? A play by Frank Walker?

seriously, every other DB on this team has an interception now, EXCEPT Foxworth.

He had one against the Browns.

I don't think he has played that bad knowing his physical limitations...which is why his signing in the beginning was so questionable to me.

But as a guy who you'd expect to be a 3rd CB based on his body of work, he hasn't been all that bad. He has played better than all our CB's other than probably Webb so far IMHO. Although we all know that isn't really saying much.

[TTRaven]

These refs are horrible

[OriAl]

Cameron is still an idiot in the red zone. We're 0 for 3 so far. Where's the jumbo package, play action, rollout with pass/run option?

More no huddle.

[darb72]

I can't remember seeing a team start a drive at the four yard line on a kick-off. That's just laughable.

[Sephy]

Yeah, Cam's redzone playcalling is frigging atrocious.

[StingerNLG]

Yeah, Cam's redzone playcalling is frigging atrocious.

It really is. This game right now rests on really two plays.

[4G63]

Cameron is still an idiot in the red zone. We're 0 for 3 so far. Where's the jumbo package, play action, rollout with pass/run option?

More no huddle.

:iagree:

All of the above!

[OriAl]

Hey, diddle diddle, Lydell up the middle. Only now it's Ray or Willis. Of course defenses are looking for that, yet Cam still plays into their hands.

[Sephy]

lol at calling 2 straight singleback runs in the redzone with our smallest back. He's great in the open field, but the cutback lanes and holes aren't gonna open there. Cam is a buffoon.

[4G63]

lol at calling 2 straight singleback runs in the redzone with our smallest back. He's great in the open field, but the cutback lanes and holes aren't gonna open there. Cam is a buffoon.

Its not that he's the smallest, but they should use the "jumbo" package with him instead of leaving him to find his own hole...I actually think he'd be better than Willis in those situations...

[Stumpy]

I hope these announcers are paying to do the game

[TTRaven]

Hell of a catch by Demetrius!

[Sephy]

D-WILL! Yes sir!

[4G63]

Demetrius Williams sighting......and why isn't he playing again?

[StingerNLG]

DEMETRIUS WILLIAMS!!!!

Big man with a big catch!!

Let the dude play!

[Stumpy]

Hell of a catch by Demetrius!

Yes it was...

[Sephy]

They NEED to challenge deep with him more often. Nice throw by Flacco in the face of a dude flattening him.

And the McClain train makes it 27-3. woop! Put Harper in now :)

[OriAl]

Who was that? Did Cam make a mistake?

[StingerNLG]

Demetrius Williams sighting......and why isn't he playing again?

http://jillshideout.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/doghouse.jpg

And someone suggested he drops passes. I don't remember when, and certainly not there.

This has been one of Harbaugh's dumbest mistakes, keeping Williams off the field.

[NCRAVEN]

http://jillshideout.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/doghouse.jpg


This has been one of Harbaugh's dumbest mistakes, keeping Williams off the field.

And keeping Barnes out

[CRZA938]

This has been one of Harbaugh's dumbest mistakes, keeping Williams off the field.

I have to agree. This one is a mystery. Williams is one of the few offensive players that threatens a defense.

[Sephy]

Suggs with nice penetration.

sorry about the no PBP guys - shoddy feeds here away from home make it impossible :(

[psuasskicker]

It was a really nice play by DWill, but let's try to remember that this Lions D is one of the worst pass defenses in the history of the NFL. It's one game. He should get a long look the rest of the season to see what he can do. But right now, that catch doesn't mean he's a whole lot better than anyone else on our roster. Mark Clayton makes the occasional nice play too, remember.

- C -

[TTRaven]

Chris Carr is looking a lot better as a returner.

[Sephy]

It was a really nice play by DWill, but let's try to remember that this Lions D is one of the worst pass defenses in the history of the NFL. It's one game. He should get a long look the rest of the season to see what he can do. But right now, that catch doesn't mean he's a whole lot better than anyone else on our roster. Mark Clayton makes the occasional nice play too, remember.

- C -

Of course not. But any time this dude has gotten in the game, he's made plays. See: Vikings, GB, here. Last year.

Even if he doesn't have a lot of catches, he's made nice blocks, and is the only player we have that can get open downfield.

[Sephy]

Another nice route and catch from D Will

[StingerNLG]

It was a really nice play by DWill, but let's try to remember that this Lions D is one of the worst pass defenses in the history of the NFL. It's one game. He should get a long look the rest of the season to see what he can do. But right now, that catch doesn't mean he's a whole lot better than anyone else on our roster. Mark Clayton makes the occasional nice play too, remember.

- C -

I think Williams though is better than you might be giving him credit for. But you are also correct we don't know everything because he isn't playing.

But he made his second catch of the day.

[TTRaven]

Heap makes the catch then injures himself

[Lee Van Cleef]

I remember d will making a few of those catches in his rookie year, that's why they called him spiderman. Nice grab, will be interesting to see if he earns anything for it by way of pt.

[Sephy]

Of course Heap is injured again. Dude gets 2 catches and is injured again. Getting a little ridiculous

[StingerNLG]

Oh crap!

Heap is hurt! And we have no more TE's do we?

Heap has to be done after this year. So fragile since 2005.

[NCRAVEN]

Heap with his obligatory high ankle sprain

[TTRaven]

Time to give Daniel Wilcox a call. We can't rely on 2 TE's that are always hurt.

[Sephy]

Oh crap!

Heap is hurt! And we have no more TE's do we?

Heap has to be done after this year. So fragile since 2005.

All aboard the Edgar Jones train! Toot toot!

[NCRAVEN]

Time to give Daniel Wilcox a call. We can't rely on 2 TE's that are always hurt.

Lets try Kruger!

[Sephy]

Time to give Daniel Wilcox a call. We can't rely on 2 TE's that are always hurt.

Because he has such a solid history of staying healthy.

[StingerNLG]

All aboard the Edgar Jones train! Toot toot!

Is he active?

[4G63]

Time to give Daniel Wilcox a call. We can't rely on 2 TE's that are always hurt.

Which the acquisition of LJ was the biggest :229031_confused2: for me...he, much like the sun rising, will be hurt sometime during the year. He is chronically hurt!!

[Sephy]

Is he active?

And playing.

Put in Troy and Harper. I wanna see some razzle dazzle.

[BArellano]

Who is LAYron McClain??? :grbac:

[Sephy]

Ellerbe is a hitter!

[StingerNLG]

Sephy you may get your wish. Ray Rice is already done.

[Sephy]

Flacco is still in. And they put Heap back in.

Need to use some sense here up 31 points.

[RavenScallywag]

Ray Rice is getting a Christmas ham from me...I think because of him, I've knocked off the #1 seed in my FFL.

Isn't it so nice to have a game put away in the 3rd quarter?

[NCRAVEN]

Flacco is still in. And they put Heap back in.

Need to use some sense here up 31 points.

:word

[Sephy]

TD, Harper in and makes the block that seals the TD for Willis. Nice! PLAY THE HARP!

41-3

[4G63]

God, I can't wait to hear Anita tomorrow.... :grbac:

[RavenScallywag]

we just took a delay of game on an XP try...

let's put in the scrubs.

[StingerNLG]

This game is ovah......

Let's see some Smith and Harper.

[4G63]

Is it wrong that I actually feel bad for Jim Schwartz and the Detroit Lions?

[Raveninwoodlawn]

Good lord the Lions are absolutely terrible.

[4G63]

Thats what a blown knee looks like....jeezus, this Detroit team has bad luck! :grbac:

[TTRaven]

Paul Kruger getting into it with the Lions O-line

[Raveninwoodlawn]

This officiating crew is pathetic.

Just gave the Lions 5 downs there.

[4G63]

Zibbs with the INT.

[4G63]

This officiating crew is pathetic.

Just gave the Lions 5 downs there.

Thats the kind-of shit that drives me insane!! What if this was a "playoff" game?

[Sephy]

Jax about to possibly lose! Miami ball, up 4, 1;20 to go. jags with all TOs.

[RavenScallywag]

511 yards offense so far...a new record

[Sephy]

jacksonville loses! WOOP!

[Flipping Birdie]

JAX lost

[Sephy]

Denver about to lose. Pats winning.

great start to the weekend!!

[Flipping Birdie]

So, are we now 6th seed for the moment, or are we still outside looking in from tie breakers?

[CRZA938]

So, are we now 6th seed for the moment, or are we still outside looking in from tie breakers?

I think Jax still has the tie breaker on us.

[Stumpy]

It's official... Troy Smith is a jack ass. Bush league dance.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

So, are we now 6th seed for the moment, or are we still outside looking in from tie breakers?

We need Jax to lose again.

They are the only team in the WC chase right now that we lose tiebreakers to I believe.

[Sephy]

hahaha Troy.

48-3.

And we are still behind Jax. We can't beat them on tiebreakers. Still need them to lose one more. But with Denver likely now taking their 5th loss, and Jax now with 6, things definitely look up.

Huge Jax vs. Indy game on Thursday night. if Jax loses that, and we win, we will officially control our own destiny. I think.

[4G63]

Troy shouldn't have been dancing after he scored...he should have just handed the ball to the Refs and walked off the field. To me, thats "rubbing it in" and is classless IMO.

[Stumpy]

Denver just lost

[BArellano]

Troy rarely sees the field. He scored a TD. Probably shouldn't have danced that much, but let's cut him some slack.

[Everything_Ravens]

my brain hurts...... we get the head 2 head over the phins but not jax, i understand , but how do they not get the head 2 head over jax after just beating them ???????:grbac:

[4G63]

Troy rarely sees the field. He scored a TD. Probably shouldn't have danced that much, but let's cut him some slack.

I know...but its just one of those things that bothers me because I've been on both sides of an asswhooping and I never liked someone acting like that.

[Raveninwoodlawn]

I thought the Browns were the worst team in the league.

I was clearly wrong.

The Lions are just absolutely terrible

[Sephy]

my brain hurts...... we get the head 2 head over the phins but not jax, i understand , but how do they not get the head 2 head over jax after just beating them ???????:grbac:

They do. But tiebreakers change depending on how many teams are in the mix. There are 4 teams at 7-6 now. I wouldn't worry about it for now.

[Everything_Ravens]

They do. But tiebreakers change depending on how many teams are in the mix. There are 4 teams at 7-6 now. I wouldn't worry about it for now.

:word !

[Lee Van Cleef]

We won with no fuss. I'm not making anything of it because the Lions are blody awful. But that's at least some competence shown.

[Dade]

I've never been more wet and cold in my life. But all in all a good confidence builder gamer for us. Very surprised at all the empty seats today.

[4G63]

I've never been more wet and cold in my life. But all in all a good confidence builder gamer for us. Very surprised at all the empty seats today.

:229031_confused2:

Really?

[Dade]

:229031_confused2:

Really?

Just meant even with the weather I didn't expect as many empty seats at M&T as there was. There wasn't alot, just a few more than expected.

[Losac]

Just meant even with the weather I didn't expect as many empty seats at M&T as there was. There wasn't alot, just a few more than expected.

The crowd was pathetic. I don't know how it sounded on TV but hardly anyone was making noise on defense. Half the crowd left at halftime.

It was cold, wet and miserable, but damn fun to watch us put up 48 points. :thumbup:

The Bmore fair weather fans strike again.

[Dade]

The crowd was pathetic. I don't know how it sounded on TV but hardly anyone was making noise on defense. Half the crowd left at halftime.

It was cold, wet and miserable, but damn fun to watch us put up 48 points. :thumbup:

The Bmore fair weather fans strike again.

Yeah there was hardly any nosie on Defense. M&T didn't have its usual atmosphere.

Damn right about the game fun to watch, at lesat for Ravens fans.

[StingerNLG]

I'm tired of the "fair weather fan" bullshit.

I made a "game-time" decision not to go because of multiple factors. And I'm assuming there were reasons for people not to be out and about today.

Don't lump everyone together.

[HoustonRaven]

I'm tired of the "fair weather fan" bullshit.

I made a "game-time" decision not to go because of multiple factors. And I'm assuming there were reasons for people not to be out and about today.

Don't lump everyone together.

:word

If you pony up the cash for tickets, who am I (or anyone else) to criticize what you do with your ticket, especially with what was one of the worst weather games I can recall.

[RavenScallywag]

My co-worker texted me this morning offering up free tickets, but I didn't see it until noon and I live out in Westminster...

If I'd seen it earlier today, I would've tried to go. And by tried, I mean I would've called in every favor I had with my wife to get her to let me out of putting up the tree today. Yeah, the rain would've sucked, but if I had the chance, I'd be in those stands any day of the week.

My best game experience is still the NE Monday night game a couple years ago. Went with a former co-worker, froze our asses off, screamed our voices out, pounded the crap out of the railing where we were sitting so my hands ached for a week. It was so worth it, even when we lost.

That said, I wouldn't call someone a fair weather fan without hearing their reasoning behind it. There are plenty of good reasons why you might have to miss a game.

[myfavoriteboxer]

I was soaked and left when the score hit 41-3. :respect I'm ok with leaving if we are blowing a team out, but I generally won't leave if we're losing, no matter how big the margin is (if not for this policy I'd have missed the big Seattle comeback). The Lions D totally quit on the 2nd half; so did I.

[Dade]

On a gameday with weather like that, I can't blame anyone who decided to not come. That was the worst gameday weather I've experinced, and I've been to a couple of NE snowday games.

I have no doubt that if it was the Steelers instead of the Lions the house would've been sold out.

[Losac]

I have no doubt that if it was the Steelers instead of the Lions the house would've been sold out.

Nah, you'd see a lot of Yinzers because the fair weather Baltimorons would sell to the highest bidders.

[HoustonRaven]

Nah, you'd see a lot of Yinzers because the fair weather Baltimorons would sell to the highest bidders.

If history is any judge, there were barley any Yinzerz at the game on Dec 30th, 2007.

Night game with rain and wind chills into the single digits. The game was meaningless, IIRC. Yet, very few black and yellow towels to be seen.

I think Dade is right. Stadium was pretty full come game time. Once it was an obvious blowout, people opted for dryer conditions. Can't say I blame them.