OT-Vasquez, You're an idiot!!!

[pyite32]

Asked about Memphis, Vasquez said during a question-and-answer session: "Their conference is pretty much questionable. They don't have tough games. But I still believe they're good."

He later qualified his remarks, saying, "I didn't mean to disrespect their conference. We have tough games night in, night out" in the Atlantic Coast Conference. "Every game we play in the ACC is tough."

But about 20 minutes later, Vasquez -- interviewed this time in the Maryland locker room -- was back on the subject.

"They'd have a losing record in the league -- probably win all of their games outside the league, losing record in the league," he said. "The ACC is too tough. You can't just win games night in and night out because you're so athletic."

Thanks for losing us this game before we even get on the court you jackass. Enjoy the NBA if you even get drafted. Good Ridance.

[Dade]

I'm not sure he even knew what the hell he was trying to say.

[Aces2Bluff]

too bad I agree with him to an extent...

Plus anyone who takes Grevis seriously needs to lighten up.

[Mwjergs]

I'll make sure to tell Memphis to realize that it's just Greivis being Greivis.

Why would you ever think about giving any team potential for bulletin board material?

Did he not learn anything heading into the Duke game?

It's tournament time and you look for any edge you can. If you don't think Johnny Slick is all over this you're not thinking straight.

[RavensNTerps]

i think his point was that we're comparable to memphis and we had a losing record in the acc...besides, he's the man.

[bmore4life]

i don't really have a problem with anything that Vasquez said. he was correct, Memphis' conference is weak. if they played in the Big East or ACC, they wouldn't be in the big dance.

two days ago, i thought the Terps would have a hard time with Memphis, but after all the upsets last night, anything is possible. 3 5-12 upsets!!! that just doesn't happen... EVER!!

[Jeremiah W]

Talking shit in hoops is part of the game. no one talked more than Jordan other than maybe Gary Payton. The better you are the more you like to talk becuase it seems to help your confidence more than it motivates your opponent, and if anything tends to distract, rattle or intimidate them.

It happens in football too, but there is a lot more the guy can do to shut you up, so you have to a lot more careful when running your mouth or even sending text messages.

[Rayvens52]

Did he say anything the rest of the nation did not already know?? Come on they really are in a joke of a conference, and he is right on...and seriously enough of this don't give them bulletin board material if memphis needed ammo to play us instead of realizing this is the big dance then they have zero chance of beating MD.

[Bez513]

Well that joke team is blowing us out. :grbac:

[Paintballguy]

Terps are playing like total ass. Forcing all kinds of dumb shots.

[pyite32]

Hmm... Looks like Memphis is really fired up for this game. Wonder why.

Anyone from UMD talking trash to a real tournament team is like Frank Walker talking trash to Larry Fitzgerald.

[pyite32]

Maybe its because they are trying to get to the sweet sixteen.....no probably not its because of Vaquez's remarks.....:grbac:

Of course, challenging remarks like Vasquez's would have no effect on how fired up you would be for a game. Especially when Memphis is playing a lesser opponent that they might have over looked and taken the W for granted.

But you're right, I am sure they didn't even hear the remarks...:261695: :grbac:

[Jeremiah W]

oops. what had happend was they started shooting, running and gunning.

They could beat the Knicks shooting 3 pointers like that. Greivis just looks a little dumb, but I doubt his comments did anything else.

i think you are only supposed to talk smack if you are actually better. It was little like Mendenhall telling people he was about to have a big game. He was going to get knocked out anyway, but now he looks stupid too.

[Ravensarge]

Hey....good thing we had that "JACKASS", we could have won a whole lot less games. Let him talk, he was the ONLY true talent on the WHOLE FREAKIN TEAM!!!!
( I'll give huge props to Williams.he's a GREAT coach, just can't recruit worth a poo!!)

[shaslers]

Of course no one talks about the interview with one of the Memphis players prior to Grevis' quote, where they were asked about Maryland and the guy said, "we know they have one good player..don't know his name...Sanchez?" If you're going to get your panties in a bunch over every comment, well then, there is another comment to condemn.

[purplepoe]

LOL.

Vasquez's comments had as much to do with the outcome of this game as what I order for dinner tonight.

PP

[Sephy]

The comments meant nothing. Memphis is a stellar team, but he's right - C-USA IS a joke. If you haven't lost a league game in 2-3 years, your conference probably sucks. UMD lost because they weren't playing good defense, Memphis shot at a ridiculous clip, and the Terps aren't that great at scoring overall. There's also a huge talent gap.

Had nothing to do with the comments.

[awalt]

It shows what Vasquez knows. Memphis could have won that game by 40. Terps had a nice year though, good coaching job by Gary this year. Maybe he can get some talent in next year...

[sdeclue]

Idiot doesn't even do it justice. He really needs to learn to keep his mouth shut and let his play do the talking.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1089-Baltimore-Sports-Examiner~y2009m3d21-Terps-tamed-by-Tigers-8970

[Sephy]

Sweet, another post with an article attached to it.

[purplepoe]

Idiot doesn't even do it justice. He really needs to learn to keep his mouth shut and let his play do the talking.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1089-Baltimore-Sports-Examiner~y2009m3d21-Terps-tamed-by-Tigers-8970

Hey genius.

His play talks quite a bit.

Or did you forget the triple double against UNC? I could go on with a list but it probably wouldn't do any good seeing as your knowledge of MD hoops is severely lacking.

The "idiot" is by far the best player on the team and Gary knows it.

Too bad nobody else has the nuts to take a legit shot when it means something.

By the way, you can stop posting your lame ass articles on this site. The dump I took this morning is more interesting than your stuff.

PP

[Aces2Bluff]

Kind of hard to compete when they are dropping 3's like they did. We got outplayed, we lost, so what. I think them getting almost embarassed did a hell of alot more then Grevis making a comment...

Future looks bright for the Terps next year. Dont get me wrong I like Dave Neal, but

Jordan Williams-6'10
James Padgett-6'9

and both are solid rebounders. Plus everyone should be back (maybe not Grevis but that could open up for Stephenson coming to MD)

[purplepoe]

"He scored just four points and had several turnovers while helping the Terps did a 20-point hole by halftime."

Usually I don't mind a grammar error here and there. But when you post a link (as usual) to a story you wrote, you might want to make it look like someone over the age of 14 wrote it.

And one more thing. Memphis shot the lights out from beyond the arc in the first half. If you aspire to have any credibility at all, you might want to mention that in your story.

PP

[awalt]

Hey Steve,

This really isn't written very well, IMHO. It could be made clearer, very few facts are given about the game that helps me to visualize what happened in my own mind if I didn't watch the game, and IMHO using passive sentences does not give an article that excitement that will grab a reader's attention. This is a very wordy, unclear, minimally factual article for someone to read who did not see the game.

Some suggestions:

"The Terps gave up a lot of open three-point looks " - wordy. Say "The Terps gave up many open three-point shots"

but that sentence needs more work:

The Terps gave up a lot of open three-point looks early in the game and the Tigers were more than happy to knock them down. - this is poor english. The Tigers knocked down the looks? Also - they were happy? That's slang and informal. The substance of what you said here could be very simply said, and maybe some facts could be added -- "The Terps gave Memphis many easy three point opportunities, and Memphis capitalized, shooting xx for yy in the first half."

"The Maryland Terrapins saw their season come to an end today" - How about being more concise with "The Maryland Terrapins saw their season end today..", "come to an end" adds nothing but extra words compared to "end".

"However, the 19-point loss was really no indication of how badly the Terps were blown out of the building." - this says nothing to me. What does blown out of the building mean, since you didn't tell me anything about what actually happened at the game to justify that remark?

How about "However, the 19 point loss was no indication of how severely Memphis dominated the Terps." And how about some facts, like Memphis was easily up by 20 before half time, and slowed the tempo of the game down dramatically in the second half? You don't explain why the score was no indication of the beat-down.

It's always better to give a reader the facts that back up your feelings about a game, instead of just giving us your feelings with no backup.

"Memphis dominated the Terrapins in shooting percentage, turnovers, free throws, rebounds, assists, and in score by as much as 20 in the first half" gives me a much more vivid picture of a beat-down in my own mind than saying "However, the 19-point loss was really no indication of how badly the Terps were blown out of the building."

"leading to a lot of empty offensive possessions." - What's an empty possession? "A lot" is wordy. How about "...leading to many scoreless possessions"

"Greivis Vasquez "lead" the Terps with 18 points" - wrong word. I think you mean "Greivis Vasquez led the Terps with 18 points"

"The toughest part of the game may have been watching Neal be removed from the game " - let's think about this, do you think anyone really thought this was the toughest part of the game? That's a little dramatic. This is also a passive sentence - Neal be removed? Was that all there was to say about it? Did the fans react? Did Gary? I didn't see the last few minutes of the game - I suspect there should be more you intended to communicate about the event than Neal burying his head. It was not the last game in his career, it was the last game in his college or Terps career.

Maybe something like this is clearer and not overly dramatic: "The game marks the last in the college career of senior Dave Neal, who was little more than a practice player for three years before emerging as one of the biggest contributors on the team in his final season. As Neal left the game in the final moments, he was overcome by the realization that his Terp career was over. He buried his head in a towel as Memphis celebrated their victory.

I would not have ended on that point, I think there are better ways to close this article with a bang. How about the something relating to the vindication Gary must have felt given the dire pre-season predictions for the team this year (one ACC writer predicted them to be last in the ACC)? Do you think Gary hung his head on the bus ride to the airport or was he telling the team "You guys persevered and supported me all year"?

Just some thoughts to ponder. Good luck with your writing, keep working at it and look for feedback from people who really know how to write and you will get a lot better!

[Sephy]

LOL at this guy trying to pimp his articles on every post and gets a grammar smackdown. Gotta love it.

[4G63]

LOL at this guy trying to pimp his articles on every post and gets a grammar smackdown. Gotta love it.

:Italian voice:

"He needsa 'da clue' about his grammars"

:/Italian voice:

[sdeclue]

Not really sure what I said in that article that was so incorrect. Yes, they were hot from the outside, but let's not act like the fact that they were wide open didn't make a difference. If the Terps had gotten a hand up in the face of a shooter now and then, they might not have made so many.

As for Vasquez, the best player on the team shot his mouth off and then didn't come to play. Simple as that.

[sdeclue]

First off, I got this article up just as the game ended. I was the first one anywhere to post any analysis on the game. I didn't go in-depth so as to get something out quicker.

Also, I don't go into great detail because I am writing to an audience that, for the most part, is diehard. I feel like most people reading my stuff watch all the games and aren't just a casual fan. I don't feel the need to give play-by-play, as many readers already saw that while watching the game.


Hey Steve,

This really isn't written very well, IMHO. It could be made clearer, very few facts are given about the game that helps me to visualize what happened in my own mind if I didn't watch the game, and IMHO using passive sentences does not give an article that excitement that will grab a reader's attention. This is a very wordy, unclear, minimally factual article for someone to read who did not see the game.

Some suggestions:

"The Terps gave up a lot of open three-point looks " - wordy. Say "The Terps gave up many open three-point shots"

but that sentence needs more work:

The Terps gave up a lot of open three-point looks early in the game and the Tigers were more than happy to knock them down. - this is poor english. The Tigers knocked down the looks? Also - they were happy? That's slang and informal. The substance of what you said here could be very simply said, and maybe some facts could be added -- "The Terps gave Memphis many easy three point opportunities, and Memphis capitalized, shooting xx for yy in the first half."

"The Maryland Terrapins saw their season come to an end today" - How about being more concise with "The Maryland Terrapins saw their season end today..", "come to an end" adds nothing but extra words compared to "end".

"However, the 19-point loss was really no indication of how badly the Terps were blown out of the building." - this says nothing to me. What does blown out of the building mean, since you didn't tell me anything about what actually happened at the game to justify that remark?

How about "However, the 19 point loss was no indication of how severely Memphis dominated the Terps." And how about some facts, like Memphis was easily up by 20 before half time, and slowed the tempo of the game down dramatically in the second half? You don't explain why the score was no indication of the beat-down.

It's always better to give a reader the facts that back up your feelings about a game, instead of just giving us your feelings with no backup.

"Memphis dominated the Terrapins in shooting percentage, turnovers, free throws, rebounds, assists, and in score by as much as 20 in the first half" gives me a much more vivid picture of a beat-down in my own mind than saying "However, the 19-point loss was really no indication of how badly the Terps were blown out of the building."

"leading to a lot of empty offensive possessions." - What's an empty possession? "A lot" is wordy. How about "...leading to many scoreless possessions"

"Greivis Vasquez "lead" the Terps with 18 points" - wrong word. I think you mean "Greivis Vasquez led the Terps with 18 points"

"The toughest part of the game may have been watching Neal be removed from the game " - let's think about this, do you think anyone really thought this was the toughest part of the game? That's a little dramatic. This is also a passive sentence - Neal be removed? Was that all there was to say about it? Did the fans react? Did Gary? I didn't see the last few minutes of the game - I suspect there should be more you intended to communicate about the event than Neal burying his head. It was not the last game in his career, it was the last game in his college or Terps career.

Maybe something like this is clearer and not overly dramatic: "The game marks the last in the college career of senior Dave Neal, who was little more than a practice player for three years before emerging as one of the biggest contributors on the team in his final season. As Neal left the game in the final moments, he was overcome by the realization that his Terp career was over. He buried his head in a towel as Memphis celebrated their victory.

I would not have ended on that point, I think there are better ways to close this article with a bang. How about the something relating to the vindication Gary must have felt given the dire pre-season predictions for the team this year (one ACC writer predicted them to be last in the ACC)? Do you think Gary hung his head on the bus ride to the airport or was he telling the team "You guys persevered and supported me all year"?

Just some thoughts to ponder. Good luck with your writing, keep working at it and look for feedback from people who really know how to write and you will get a lot better!

[awalt]

First off, I got this article up just as the game ended. I was the first one anywhere to post any analysis on the game. I didn't go in-depth so as to get something out quicker.

Steve, being fast isn't any good if it's not written well. People won't come back. That's the first lesson of writing. Do you think people want to read articles that have misspellings and poor grammar in them?

Also, there was no analysis - just opinions. You told the reader your conclusion, you didn't analyze anything for them. The serious fan doesn't want to read that, as they saw the game themselves! They would read some insight that they didn't think of.

[highwater]

Memphis was on fire yesterday and are simply a better team, so you can easily argue that what Vasquez said had no bearing on the game.

But I think it's safe to say that his idiotic smack talk sure didn't do any good. Not for the Terps, anyway.

And on the links to self-penned articles, rewrites and advice on how to write -- WTF?

[sdeclue]

Memphis is the better team and would beat the Terps 9 out of 10 times. However, to think it had no bearing is silly. Vasquez played terrible, and it was pretty evident they were keying on him the entire day. His technical foul didn't help either.


Memphis was on fire yesterday and are simply a better team, so you can easily argue that what Vasquez said had no bearing on the game.

But I think it's safe to say that his idiotic smack talk sure didn't do any good. Not for the Terps, anyway.

And on the links to self-penned articles, rewrites and advice on how to write -- WTF?

[sdeclue]

There weren't grammatical errrors. Maybe certain sentences weren't written the way you would write them, but that doesn't mean it is grammatically incorrect.

Analysis is essentially my opinions, so I'm not sure what you mean by that. If I give analysis, I'm giving my opinion.


Steve, being fast isn't any good if it's not written well. People won't come back. That's the first lesson of writing. Do you think people want to read articles that have misspellings and poor grammar in them?

Also, there was no analysis - just opinions. You told the reader your conclusion, you didn't analyze anything for them. The serious fan doesn't want to read that, as they saw the game themselves! They would read some insight that they didn't think of.

[UKRavenStockers]

Memphis is the better team and would beat the Terps 9 out of 10 times. However, to think it had no bearing is silly. Vasquez played terrible, and it was pretty evident they were keying on him the entire day. His technical foul didn't help either.

I really don't see that Memphis keying on Vazquez is proof that his comments had a bearing on their gameplan. Vazquez is the Terps one clear cut game winner, pretty much the only player on the roster who can take the team on his back and drag them to a big win (see UNC at College Park last month). Sure his comments were probably bulletin board material for the Tigers, but he was always likely to be targetted by Calipari in his gameplan to limit his impact. I also don't think it's a given that his comments focused Memphis on the game, they damned near tripped over Cal-State Northridge in the opening round, that more than some comments from Vazquez would've been more important in re-focusing Memphis and Calipari had that game in his back pocket to make sure they looked past no-one.

It wasn't smart for Vazquez to open his yap but it wasn't the reason they lost the game either. That said that's twice he's made dumb comments before big games this year and the Terps got slaughtered in both games, he should probably learn to keep his yap shut in future.

[srobert96]

Asked about Memphis, Vasquez said during a question-and-answer session: "Their conference is pretty much questionable. They don't have tough games. But I still believe they're good."

He later qualified his remarks, saying, "I didn't mean to disrespect their conference. We have tough games night in, night out" in the Atlantic Coast Conference. "Every game we play in the ACC is tough."

But about 20 minutes later, Vasquez -- interviewed this time in the Maryland locker room -- was back on the subject.

"They'd have a losing record in the league -- probably win all of their games outside the league, losing record in the league," he said. "The ACC is too tough. You can't just win games night in and night out because you're so athletic."

Thanks for losing us this game before we even get on the court you jackass. Enjoy the NBA if you even get drafted. Good Ridance.


Gary lost this game before it was played with his lazy arrogant approach to recruiting. The level of talent that Maryland puts on the court is embarrassing. Nobody should be happy with making the tourney and only winning 1 game. Anything short of a sweet 16 should be a disappointing year. But with Gary's terrible recruiting making the tourney is reason to celebrate.

[Dave Lap]

What Greivis did was dumb. You never disrepect an opponent or their conference before playing them.

I do think that his comments motivated Memphis to play a little harder, concentrate a little more fully and hustle a bit more. There's no way to prove that either way, of course, but that's my opinion.

Did it make a difference in the game? Nah, Memphis would have won anyway, especially the way they were burying the 3 ball.

And yeah, Gary needs to improve his recruiting. He's got some good players for next year who could develop signifigantly and some recruits that sound pretty good. Vasquez is clearly the best player on the team. I hope he comes back for one more year. We could make the final four if he comes back and the freshman provide some rebounding and interior shot blocking.

[Rochardrik]

Gary lost this game before it was played with his lazy arrogant approach to recruiting. The level of talent that Maryland puts on the court is embarrassing. Nobody should be happy with making the tourney and only winning 1 game. Anything short of a sweet 16 should be a disappointing year. But with Gary's terrible recruiting making the tourney is reason to celebrate.

True Dat!!!!

[FellsPointRaven]

I'm surprised Tony is OK with a guy constantly pimping his own articles on what is effectively a competitor's website. The constant flow of one sentence posts with a link pasted to the bottom gets pretty tiresome.

Scarily good analysis by Awalt, too.:thumbup:

[RAVENOUS52]

"Wahh Wahh Wahh, Gary can't recruit!"
Give it a fucking break already. Nobody was saying shit when we beat California, so don't go breaking out that lame shit now.

As for Vasquez, he needs to learn to keep his big fucking mouth shut.

The last time he ran his cock-holster, Duke blew us out by 41 points.

Again, shut the fuck up and play you Venezuelan bunghole.

[highwater]

"Wahh Wahh Wahh, Gary can't recruit!"
Give it a fucking break already. Nobody was saying shit when we beat California, so don't go breaking out that lame shit now.

:iagree: :thumbup:


As for Vasquez, he needs to learn to keep his big fucking mouth shut.

The last time he ran his cock-holster, Duke blew us out by 41 points.

:iagree: :thumbup:

I have nothing else to add.

[srobert96]

"Wahh Wahh Wahh, Gary can't recruit!"
Give it a fucking break already. Nobody was saying shit when we beat California, so don't go breaking out that lame shit now.

As for Vasquez, he needs to learn to keep his big fucking mouth shut.

The last time he ran his cock-holster, Duke blew us out by 41 points.

Again, shut the fuck up and play you Venezuelan bunghole.

WOW!!! Wahh Wahh Wahh a 20 yr old kid talking smack before a college basketball game. Give me a break. If it was not for Vasquez MD would not have made it to the NIT. Do you remember that the Venezuelan had a triple double in the win against UNC. Only a loser would be happy with a win over Cal in the first round of the tournament. Hooray for mediocrity!!!

[bmoreravengirl]

Again, shut the fuck up and play you Venezuelan bunghole.

Was that really necessary?

[RAVENOUS52]

Was that really necessary?

Yes. And I love Vasquez. That's why I get a little pissed off when he runs his yap. Learn from your mistakes kid. Don't keep letting your mouth write a check your ass can't cash.:mad:

[sdeclue]

WOW!!! Wahh Wahh Wahh a 20 yr old kid talking smack before a college basketball game. Give me a break. If it was not for Vasquez MD would not have made it to the NIT. Do you remember that the Venezuelan had a triple double in the win against UNC. Only a loser would be happy with a win over Cal in the first round of the tournament. Hooray for mediocrity!!!

I don't think anyone is saying Vasquez didn't make a huge difference on this team. It's obvious we would have been N.I.T. bound at best without him. That still doesn't mean he shouldn't show some restraint and discipline and keep his mouth shut. Nothing good can come of what he said, so why say it?

[Dave Lap]

As for Gary not recruiting, the radio said 39 players from the state of Maryland played in the tournament - for other teams and most of them knew where they were going by the 11th grade.

Gary cant even get his share of the state's talent.:grbac:
:thumbdown:

I love Gary but (and you knew that but was coming) it's plain to see that he has fallen down on the recruiting end in recent years. Given Maryland's location close to the nations capital, the amount of local talent available and MD's position in arguably the best basketball conference in the US, he should be doing better.

I'm not close enough to the story to figure out why. Maybe he's left it up to his assistants and the current crop aren't as good as say Dickerson, Patsos, Hahn, etc were. Maybe the academic requirements changing have stymied recruiting. There are a lot of factors to consider but the result is the same: lack of elite talent at MD equals few trips to the NCAA's in recent years.

I heard a guy on a radio talk show yesterday who said he played locally against Mugsy Bogues and the great players of that era. He said that a lot of local guys get pressure from their family to move out of the Baltimore area because of the drug scene. He coulda been fulla shit but his story had at least some ring of truth to it.

What really hurt Maryland was also some plain bad luck. After their NCAA title they recruited (on paper) on of the best classes in the country. Unfortunately the players Medley, Garrison, etc. were pretty much busts. We had a window there to become an elite team but the prospects just didn't pan out. If they had it could have created a recruiting mill similar to North Carolina.

For whatever reason, Gary needs to adjust his recruiting to the present day situation and get Md. back in the hunt. They should be in the top 25 teams in the country just about every year instead of being an NCAA bubble team.

[Jeremiah W]

I love Gary but (and you knew that but was coming) it's plain to see that he has fallen down on the recruiting end in recent years. Given Maryland's location close to the nations capital, the amount of local talent available and MD's position in arguably the best basketball conference in the US, he should be doing better.

I'm not close enough to the story to figure out why. Maybe he's left it up to his assistants and the current crop aren't as good as say Dickerson, Patsos, Hahn, etc were. Maybe the academic requirements changing have stymied recruiting. There are a lot of factors to consider but the result is the same: lack of elite talent at MD equals few trips to the NCAA's in recent years.

I heard a guy on a radio talk show yesterday who said he played locally against Mugsy Bogues and the great players of that era. He said that a lot of local guys get pressure from their family to move out of the Baltimore area because of the drug scene. He coulda been fulla shit but his story had at least some ring of truth to it.

What really hurt Maryland was also some plain bad luck. After their NCAA title they recruited (on paper) on of the best classes in the country. Unfortunately the players Medley, Garrison, etc. were pretty much busts. We had a window there to become an elite team but the prospects just didn't pan out. If they had it could have created a recruiting mill similar to North Carolina.

For whatever reason, Gary needs to adjust his recruiting to the present day situation and get Md. back in the hunt. They should be in the top 25 teams in the country just about every year instead of being an NCAA bubble team.

I think his only real bad recruting class was the Dave Neal senior group of YMCA players. Dave proved he could play in the ACC as a SR but he is obviously the weakest year of Sr players Gary has had.

Greivis and Hayes have already proven worthy of pt as Jrs, and I like the young players like Milborne on down.

[Dave Lap]

I think his only real bad recruting class was the Dave Neal senior group of YMCA players. Dave proved he could play in the ACC as a SR but he is obviously the weakest year of Sr players Gary has had.

Greivis and Hayes have already proven worthy of pt as Jrs, and I like the young players like Milborne on down.


I like the young players too: Bowie, Gregory, etc. Greivis and Hayes were good to excellent gets. Every class in the last 4 years has needed 1-2 more elite to semi-elite type players to get us where we need to be to compete in the top of the ACC.

Anytime a program like Maryland fails to get to the NCAA's for 3-4 years in a row and you have an excellent coach the recruiting is going to be questioned.