New browns head coach?

[Better than Boller]

From ESPN.com

Here is another sign that Cleveland Browns coach Romeo Crennel will be let go after the season. I'm hearing that, behind the scenes, the Browns are beginning to compile a list of future head-coaching candidates. Although many of the names are hard to come by, defensive coordinator Rex Ryan of the Baltimore Ravens is one on Cleveland's radar. It appears the Browns will move very quickly with the coaching search and tread slowly with their situation with general manager Phil Savage. This might be a sign that Savage has the best chance of the two to make it through this turbulent season.

i think there is no way he leaves the ravens, especially for a team like the browns. what do you guys think?

[Galen Sevinne]

From ESPN.com

Here is another sign that Cleveland Browns coach Romeo Crennel will be let go after the season. I'm hearing that, behind the scenes, the Browns are beginning to compile a list of future head-coaching candidates. Although many of the names are hard to come by, defensive coordinator Rex Ryan of the Baltimore Ravens is one on Cleveland's radar. It appears the Browns will move very quickly with the coaching search and tread slowly with their situation with general manager Phil Savage. This might be a sign that Savage has the best chance of the two to make it through this turbulent season.

i think there is no way he leaves the ravens, especially for a team like the browns. what do you guys think?

i would think Savage would want him and based on the fact that Ryan has been overlooked 2 years in a row now, I bet he takes whatever job he can get. while Clevlenad has added some quality guys in the past year or two, I think it would be a dismal place to coach.

[Better than Boller]

I think he has found his niche as our defensive coordinate honestly.

and what do we have that Phil savage dosent want? seriously....

[phatboy]

None of Billicks defensive coaches have done very well. Marvin, Jack, Mike. Not to mention the other defensive guys like Romeo. Maybe we get lucky and get to keep Rex. Maybe Biscuit will do only one thing similar to the midget and pay Rex HC money to keep him.

[festivus]

I can't imagine Ryan would leave to coach the Browns. Just because he wasn't hired by San Diego doesn't mean he's now desperate and/or stupid.

[Better than Boller]

agreed, i think he would take less money and our defense over pretty much anyone else in the league, especially the browns.

[psuasskicker]

I think if any of you think that Ryan would so much as hesitate to take any HC job he's offered, all you need to do is look at Dallas to see why that's a moronic move.

Rex isn't "next in line" for the Ravens HC gig. The only coordinators that turn down HC jobs are.

0% Ryan doesn't take a HC job if he's offered it, even the Browns.

- C -

[festivus]

"Ok, coach Ryan, here's our offer. You can be our head coach. Our players suck and our highly touted GM doesn't seem to do anything but dig up Ravens retreads. Also you should be warned your predecessor lasted only three years, accomplished nothing for himself professionally, and is now widely considered a joke and a failure as a head coach.

So, you interested?"

[psuasskicker]

"Okay, coach Ryan, here's our offer. You can have one of the most coveted jobs on the planet. It's a job only 31 other people on this planet have. You can come and take a shot to make a huge name for yourself by turning around an entire organization, and we're going to pay you millions and millions of dollars to do it. The best part is, if you wind up failing here, we have a sh*tty organization so it's really not a black mark on your record. We'll fire you, you'll still get paid our money, and you can go back to coaching or whatever else you want to do.

So, you interested?"

[The Fanatic]

I think if any of you think that Ryan would so much as hesitate to take any HC job he's offered, all you need to do is look at Dallas to see why that's a moronic move.

Rex isn't "next in line" for the Ravens HC gig. The only coordinators that turn down HC jobs are.

0% Ryan doesn't take a HC job if he's offered it, even the Browns.

- C -

What he said.

There is no way Ryan turns down a head coaching job no matter where it's offered.

I think he is as good as gone after this year particurally with the way the new wave of unproven head coaches have had success.

I'm a thinkin' the Browns, Rams and Lions are the first ones to come knockin'.

[Galen Sevinne]

"Okay, coach Ryan, here's our offer. You can have one of the most coveted jobs on the planet. It's a job only 31 other people on this planet have. You can come and take a shot to make a huge name for yourself by turning around an entire organization, and we're going to pay you millions and millions of dollars to do it. The best part is, if you wind up failing here, we have a sh*tty organization so it's really not a black mark on your record. We'll fire you, you'll still get paid our money, and you can go back to coaching or whatever else you want to do.

So, you interested?"

i agree. of course, if he was offered the Dallas job because Jason Garrett has basically lost all credibility this year, Ryan would take that. But in the absence of any other, better offers, of course he takes the Browns job. Just like Marvin took the Bengals job. These guys live to be head coaches...there is no way he "settles in" to an assistants job.

Maybe he then ends up like Cam but I think he takes a shot at it first.

[RavenScallywag]

I have to imagine Rex would be just one of several front runners...the Cleveland OC, Marty Schottenheimer, Brian Billick, and Rex Ryan. Probably in another year, Cam will be getting the HC offers again as well.

[psuasskicker]

I have to imagine Rex would be just one of several front runners...the Cleveland OC, Marty Schottenheimer, Brian Billick, and Rex Ryan. Probably in another year, Cam will be getting the HC offers again as well.

I'm not sure of that. He's had two huge failings as a head coach, and the stink of a 1-15 season - particularly when the following year that team wins 10 games - doesn't wear off quickly. Cam's up there in age, he's not likely to get many HC offers any time soon.

That's great for us. We should hope he spends the rest of his career here.

- C -

[ravenjoer]

I want to believe after 10 years here he would not accept a job in the division and and if he did it would have to be the "right" situation and who would want to coach at the mistake by the lake?

[Lee Van Cleef]

My concern is that, if Ryan does leave this offseason, Suggs and Ray decide they want to go with him. I don't think that would happen with the Browns, because Suggs and Ray wanna win, but I am concerned no Rex means they'd be more inclined to leave.

[RavenTD]

I would not want to see Rex get swallowed up by the Cleveland curse.I would wish him well on his way to any Head Coaching gig as long as its outside the division.I hope he has more brains than to move into the mistake by the lake.

Have we seen a drop off with one DC leaving to the next?No. Rex has certainly taken the Ravens D to the mad scientist level but I am sure the Ravens will just fit in the next guy.Its the defensive players we may lose at the end of the season I am more worried about.

[F Angelos]

Savage is getting fired so this speculation is meaningless.

[Losac]

Is it time to start declaring Ryan as good as gone already? Kind of like the past 3 years?

[jonboy79]

I saw one of the talking heads suggesting taht either CLE or DET get a trifecta of New Englanders, Pioli, McDaniel, and Cassel. I think it woul dbe a good move for Det specifically.
I'm not sure Rex gets offerred a HC job, the new Trend is not Coordinators, it's young fiery positional coaches. His ceiling may have been reached as a Coordinator before a trip to the top. I think Rex and Cam are both number 2's, not Head Coach guys. Top level #2's indeed.

[RustonRifle]

I think Rex and Cam are both number 2's, not Head Coach guys. Top level #2's indeed.

I've been worried all season that Cam will be going back to SD for the head coaches job if or when Norv gets shown the door. I hope he stays on so this offense can get more established and the growth of Flacco can continue without learning a new program.

[xmradiodave]

I do not foresee too many teams wanting Cam Cameron just yet. Sure, he is having a phenomenal season as the OC of the Ravens, but I think the stink that was the 2007 Dolphins still looms all over him. I think he would deserve another chance down the road, but it is still too soon.

[srobert96]

There is a question if Savage will even retain his job.

I personally think that Rex Ryan would not make a very good HC. He also probably does not give the best interview. If I were looking for a HC would I hire a guy that was passed over by the team in which he has been an outstanding coordinator? And he was not passed over for a proven big name veteran. Much like Cam Cameron I think some coaches are better coordinators. I would hope he would want to stay in Bmore and become the next Monty Kiffin.

[Greg]

I would not want to see Rex get swallowed up by the Cleveland curse.I would wish him well on his way to any Head Coaching gig as long as its outside the division.I hope he has more brains than to move into the mistake by the lake.

Have we seen a drop off with one DC leaving to the next?No. Rex has certainly taken the Ravens D to the mad scientist level but I am sure the Ravens will just fit in the next guy.Its the defensive players we may lose at the end of the season I am more worried about.
Taking the C-choke job would be an easy decision, he has to do it. It is a great gig. If you turn them around you are hailed. If you don't, you are just the last in a long line of guys unable to bail fast enough on the Titanic.

I agree completely on the next thought. The players are more of the concern to me.

[Purpleguy]

I don't think Rex is a very bright guy at all. I think many organizations can look and see that our defense has remained dominant regardless of who the coordinator was, and those coordinators have not found much success as HCs in the league. Rex will do the interview circuit, but I wouldn't be surprised if he is passed over again. If he is offered anything, you can bet he is taking it.

Cam has brought creativity to our offense, but he has already failed as a HC. Some people are just better suited as coordinators. I don't even think he'll be interviewed for any vacancies.

[ravenwoman]

Rex Ryan is desperate to become an NFL Head Coach. He won't turn down any offers, because he has never had any offers. He is not the premier candidate. Steve Spagnulo from the Giants will have multiple offers.

The only coach that has that luxury is Bill Cowher. He is a proven coach and was never fired.

I personally think the reason why our Defensive Coordinators have moved on to head coaching positions is due to the play and leadership of Ray Lewis and our strong supporting cast. We make our DC's look better than they are.

[Rochardrik]

I just heard that They (Cleve) will offer Cowturd 9 mil per year!

[awalt]

How do you guys know he is DESPERATE to become a head coach? Where has that been stated?

Some facts to consider:

1 - He got a healthy raise and promotion to Asst. Head Coach. Browns will have to make a good money offer to make it work. They won't be able to hire him on the cheap.

2- Ryan I am sure realizes that there is a lot wrong with the Browns, and a lot of guy have failed there. How many times do you hear candidates say "it has to be the right situation"? With the Browns track record he has on average 2 years to make it work or he is likely gone. With no prior experience, no resume, and a little bit of a rep of being a players coach and rough around the edges (feedback from prior head coaching interviews), he could be out of football then or forced to take DC or even a Defensive line coaching job somewhere for significantly less money. A big risk...

3 - which leads to point 3 - why the rush? Doing what he does for the Ravens isn't hurting his coaching chances, he makes some of the best money in the NFL of coordinators, he has the respect and ear of the management and players,he has input on the players they get, he has a hands-off head coach, I see no reason at all he should be desperate to jump to one of the five worst franchises in the NFL.

4 - See Marvin Lewis - a good coach in an organization that doesn't support him doesn't have a very fun time.

[StingerNLG]

The real question though folks is why hasn't Rex gotten a HC job yet? Apparently there is something other teams are seeing that they don't think he's ready for yet.

[RavensDomination]

Like everything else, it's all about the money. Why did Garrett stay in Dallas? Why did Marvin leave for D.C.? If Ryan gets offered a HC job and Bisciotti matches the contract, I think he'll stay. D.C.'s last a lot longer in this league than H.C.'s - he could be our Monte Kiffin.

[sailorsam]

have to think Cowher will be going to Cleveland unless he considers it another train wreck. I doubt anyone with options would go to Oakland or Detroit. I don't doubt RRyan will be a head coach soon, and I think he deserves it as much as anyone. and Cam will probably be a candidate again in a year or two.
I've noticed I don't hear Garrett's name much this year...nor Fassells.
If for whatever reason Cowher says no (and it would be a good fit for him, if he feels comfortable wi the management), I think we'll see Schotty back.

[Tspot-D-Ravenator]

I personally think the reason why our Defensive Coordinators have moved on to head coaching positions is due to the play and leadership of Ray Lewis and our strong supporting cast. We make our DC's look better than they are.

:iagree:

[RAVENOUS52]

To be offered your first HC job in the NFL and turn it down without having a Garrett-type deal already in place is career suicide.

What does it say about a person if they decline an offer because they beleive the challenge will be too great?

[elland]

Go away Browns, why not to pissburgh..? They have a pretty good DC too.

[Rxdoxx]

I'd say Cam needs another good year or two to push the Miami stink out of people's minds. There are jobless names being occasionally brought up that we might be able to clump Cam with (Fassel, Marty...)

Rex, we have been very fortunate he has stayed here as long as he has. Facing yet another year where we don't know if he makes it back. He definitely has the qualifications and absolutely deserves his shot. He has similar competition from people like Greg Williams.

Jonboy79 has added a great point. Most NFL teams jump on trends, and with the current success of "young fiery positional coaches", Rex is definitely bucking a trend.

Clowns will bear watching to see what happens with Savage. Maybe they are getting tired of ex-Ravens who don't shine. If Savage stays, Rex may have a better shot there than if he is gone.

But OMG it just looks like too many jobs going to open up for someone like Rex not to get an offer.

[Thyrl]

I'll take it one step further and say that Rex pretty much has to be gone after this year, whether he gets a HC job or not.

There will be quite a few openings after this season, and it will be Rex's third season of serious interviews. Some on here mentioned that he may be hurt by the lack of success that his predacessors had as HC's.

I think that if he doesn't get a HC gig this time around it'll be because everyone figures that Ray has been the Pseudo DC all along. And Rex will probably have to go elsewhere as a DC, much like Marvin to the Skins in order to finally get some respect.

I do like the conspiracy theory that someone may hire Rex to get the inside track on Ray too.