OT / O's player Scott

[HoustonRaven]

I submit this thread with the full knowledge I will need to tip-toe around the politics associated with it, but I need some help and I value peoples judgment and opinions here.

Can someone please tell me where the story is here? Im being 100%, dead serious. I dont know why this is a story. What am I missing?

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-sp.orioles02mar02,0,1844464.story

[ExiledRaven]

Sun is just trying to rile up the city-based anti-firearms crowd. Otherwise, you're right, it's really not much of anything.

[highwater]

I actually saw that "Outside the Lines" episode that included an interview with Scott, but since I didn't really know who he was at that time, I didn't connect the dots until now. Scott was one of several athletes that were interviewed about the fact that they carry guns (Karl Malone was the only other one I remember).

I suppose the reason it's "a story" is because a lot of people find it odd and/or interesting that anyone would carry around a concealed weapon. But in reality, it's probably just an instance of the Sun trying to find something to write about.

[HoustonRaven]

Can you imagine if it would have been Ray Lewis who was carrying a concealed weapon?

Yes ....so what if Ray, Cal or the dude next door carries a weapon? I still dont see why this is a story.

[highwater]

Yes ....so what if Ray, Cal or the dude next door carries a weapon? I still dont see why this is a story.

You appear to be making the mistake of thinking that the Sun knows what a real story is. FWIW, I didn't get the impression they were making some sort of political statement, it's just another one of their spring training articles. Between now and opening day, you'll be seeing plenty of these non-stories.

[HoustonRaven]

You appear to be making the mistake of thinking that the Sun knows what a real story is. FWIW, I didn't get the impression they were making some sort of political statement, it's just another one of their spring training articles. Between now and opening day, you'll be seeing plenty of these non-stories.

Good Point. Shame on me for thinking they would actually do journalism.

[JimBone]

Anyone who has ever picked up the Sun knows it is an ultra left wing liberal rag.( Just try to find to unbiased article on Bob Ehrlick). Research any statistics on states with a carry and conceal law and you will see that gun crime decreased after legislation was passed.( A minor statistic the Setting Sun would never report) Anyone who has HBO should check out The Wire this season and you will get an understanding of why the reporting has suffered so greatly on the Setting sun.( Mike Preston anyone ?)

[crazyraven]

Can someone please tell me where the story is here? Im being 100%, dead serious. I dont know why this is a story. What am I missing

I dont think your missing anything....

The Sun did a feature on the guy and this is as much info they could squeeze out. Its obvious the guy is into guns and religion. That's his MO. If he was passionate about something else Im sure it would have come out. It seems like he wears these two items on his sleeve.


FWIW, I didn't get the impression they were making some sort of political statement, it's just another one of their spring training articles. Between now and opening day, you'll be seeing plenty of these non-stories.

Look at this, this mother fucker is connecting dots again.....LOL :laugh:

[purplepoe]

O, there was a point to the Sun's article.

I think some of us know what it is.

Look at the headline on the right side of their website right now.

"Gun issue triggers attention for Scott."

I'm sorry, but what "issue" are they referring to?

That rag is a complete embarrassment.

PP

[flraven]

Its not like the guy was doing anything illegal, Florida and Texas both are states with conceal/carry laws. It does seem to be a non-issue. He just won't be able to carry it once he's in MD.

[Rochardrik]

I read the article, and I didn't see where there was ANY kind of "judgement passing". This is a very touchy issue. In Western Md., 10 year old girls hunt and shoot deer, and bears... Gun usage is a rite of passage. I don't hunt, or own a gun. I would prefer there were more in my catagory then the other, but that's me. I do feel that there is NO SUREFIRE way to weed out potential hotheads from owning and carrying, and concealing guns. WAY TOO MANY unscrupulous "collectors" will sell to ANYONE. To that end, I would love to see the "gun culture" dialed back, but I doubt that will happen for a LONG time. We live in a new world, far from the lawlessness romanticized in movies about the old west... truth is, guns ended many an innocent person's life... and our perceived notions of the need, and use of them is a bit askew. BUT, as it is, way too many criminals have guns, or can get them in a heartbeat, and this is a direct result of our "gun culture". If not so many owned guns, there would be fewer manufactured, and fewer stolen, and fewer used in crimes, etc. What we have is the NRA trying to make sure every one who wants one can get one. What we need is for the NRA, or gun advocates, to step up and figure out a way to control this consequence since any attempt at control by the "liberals" is decried as an attempt to abolish guns. There are MANY people who become "collectors" simply because the more guns they own, the bigger their ego. This in a nutshell is what ruins a "right to bear arms" society.

[HoustonRaven]

truth is, guns ended many an innocent person's life

And millions of people have been spared being a victim of violent crime by the simple display of a weapon, let alone the actual use of one.


If not so many owned guns, there would be fewer manufactured, and fewer stolen, and fewer used in crimes, etc.

Statistically, thats completely innaccurate. In my adoptive state of Texas, 1 in 5 Texans have a licence to carry a frie arm and at any given time, 1 in 10 Texans are excercising their 2nd Amendment right and are armed. The violent crime rate per capita (per 100,000 people) is far lower than in any other part of the country. Same goes in AZ and FL -- in fact, FL had an epidemic of violent crime 10 years ago and since the inception of the castle doctrine combined with a very liberal carry law, that crime rate per capita was cut in half.


What we have is the NRA trying to make sure every one who wants one can get one.

Again, thats just completely inaccurate. For years, the NRA has stood for legal AND responisble gun ownership and NOT a wholesale notion of everyone owning a gun. I invite you to read the book "The Bias Against Guns" by John R Lott. Not only does he run down the falsehoods portrayed my the MSM, the entire second half of his book is a statistical study over the span of 10+ years that proves the theory that gun ownersip and carry laws save lives (especially in minority communites).

With all that said, I STILL dont see why this is an issue.

We dont say if someone exercises their 3rd through 10th Amendment rights, they have "issues" as the Sun portrays. Luke Scott has a differing view then most Marylanders in regards to religion and gun rights. So what? Isnt Maryland the bastain of tolerance, acceptance and inclusiveness?

[JimBone]

And millions of people have been spared being a victim of violent crime by the simple display of a weapon, let alone the actual use of one.



Statistically, thats completely innaccurate. In my adoptive state of Texas, 1 in 5 Texans have a licence to carry a frie arm and at any given time, 1 in 10 Texans are excercising their 2nd Amendment right and are armed. The violent crime rate per capita (per 100,000 people) is far lower than in any other part of the country. Same goes in AZ and FL -- in fact, FL had an epidemic of violent crime 10 years ago and since the inception of the castle doctrine combined with a very liberal carry law, that crime rate per capita was cut in half.




Again, thats just completely inaccurate. For years, the NRA has stood for legal AND responisble gun ownership and NOT a wholesale notion of everyone owning a gun. I invite you to read the book "The Bias Against Guns" by John R Lott. Not only does he run down the falsehoods portrayed my the MSM, the entire second half of his book is a statistical study over the span of 10+ years that proves the theory that gun ownersip and carry laws save lives (especially in minority communites).

With all that said, I STILL dont see why this is an issue.

We dont say if someone exercises their 3rd through 10th Amendment rights, they have "issues" as the Sun portrays. Luke Scott has a differing view then most Marylanders in regards to religion and gun rights. So what? Isnt Maryland the bastain of tolerance, acceptance and inclusiveness?

How dare you use facts, logic, and reason to support your argument!