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ravenwoman
01-08-2008, 07:24 AM
What is wrong with the Ravens not interviewing Russ Grimm? He worked with Bill Cowher and was an excellent offensive lineman in the NFL. He has loads of coaching experience and was in line to get the Steelers HC job last year.

He certainly seems worthy of an interview.

ravenjoe
01-08-2008, 07:48 AM
I agree...

RavenScallywag
01-08-2008, 09:08 AM
Do we have a full list of our second round interviews? So far we've interviewed Brian Schottenheimer, scheduled interviews with John Harbaugh and Jim Schwartz (one of my favs), and there's talk of interviewing Marty Schottenheimer. That can't be it, I know the sports guy on KMS said it seems like we're going to put together about 8-10 candidates and then look over those to decide on second interviews. So far, we've done Caldwell, Garrett, Sparano, Ryan, B. Schottenheimer...Add in Harbaugh and Schwartz to get 7, Marty makes 8...I hope we at least interview Russ Grimm and Mike Singletary to round it out (In this scenario, I'm assuming Cowher is out). We're already ok with the Rooney rule because of Caldwell, but I'd like to at least give Singletary a shot, and I agree, Grimm would be a great candidate, if nothing else. Certainly ahead of Harbaugh and B. Schottenheimer...

Losac
01-08-2008, 10:17 AM
I'm amazed they haven't even contacted him with some of the boobs they have been interviewing (B. Schottenheimer). From what I know about him he'd be at least worth talking to!

RavenScallywag
01-08-2008, 10:18 AM
I've got a gut feeling the Redskins will go after him, if not promoting Saunders or G. Williams...He's a former Redskin, as both a player and a coach.

ravenwoman
01-08-2008, 10:25 AM
I was upset to hear about Joe Gibbs leaving. We don't need any more teams competing for new coaches. As I stated in another thread, the Ravens need to step up and have more of a sense of urgency about getting a coach in place before Miami and Washington gobble up someone who we are truly interested in.

I wonder what Cowher is thinking now that the DC job is open?

RavenScallywag
01-08-2008, 10:45 AM
I will have to disagree...adding haste to this process increases our chances of picking someone who is the wrong fit and will only succeed in making us worse or the same.

To be honest, we really do have the best situation of all HC openings....

ATL - Ha! That's a PR nightmare for a HC. If you stay longer than one year, you're going to have to deal with the Vick situation, and I'm sure no coach wants to touch that with a 100-foot pole. The only upside with that job is that the owner seems to be ok with backing the coach when he's not doing so well, as Blank did when Petrino was about to jump ship.

MIA - QB situation is just as messy as ours is, plus their offense has some big holes with no big WRs, no big TE, and a RB that's just recuperating an injury. D is aging as much as ours is, but doesn't have a lot of young talent to develop. Owner was rumoured to be considering selling the team, and they've changed coaches nearly annually since Dave Wanndstet

WAS - Dealing with Dan Snyder might be the biggest thing on the list of hinderances for WAS. NO ONE likes Snyder! The team has a strategy of getting rid of draft picks to pick up expensive aging veterans. Coming in their as a HC after Gibbs will set you up for failure. Hell, the team fired Marty after one 8-8 season!

BAL, you get a good owner, a strong core of players, a good GM in Ozzie, a great fan base, and just minimal locker room issues. QB situation is biggest issue, but honestly, only WAS has a better QB situation on that list.

I think we can afford to be selective. The best coach is going to wait for our decision.

ravenwoman
01-10-2008, 12:23 PM
I heard on WNST this morning on the Drew show that some of the Ravens brass had some issues with considering Russ Grimm as a head coach.

I wish we had more information on this as to what those issues were. Maybe the problem isn't Russ Grimm.

RavenScallywag
01-10-2008, 12:35 PM
again, I think there is something to note in the fact that NO ONE has contacted Russ Grimm for an interview. Not the Ravens, Falcons, Dolphins, or Redskins (yet, I get a feeling they're most likely to interview him, as a former player and coach). Something tells me there's more to the story about why he hasn't had an interview yet.

HoustonRaven
01-10-2008, 01:16 PM
BAL, you get a good owner, a strong core of players, a good GM in Ozzie, a great fan base, and just minimal locker room issues. QB situation is biggest issue, but honestly, only WAS has a better QB situation on that list.

I think we can afford to be selective. The best coach is going to wait for our decision.

Agreed but you forgot one key factor. Salery cap!

The Skins are getting all the press but they will be $25 Million over the cap next year. We will only be $5 Million and that can easily be made up if Ogden retires (or we franchise Suggs).

camdenyard
01-10-2008, 01:39 PM
I heard on WNST this morning on the Drew show that some of the Ravens brass had some issues with considering Russ Grimm as a head coach.

As long as that "brass" isn't named Dick Cass.

Let the football people make the football decisions. This should be Ozzie's choice all the way.

Drkraven
01-10-2008, 02:54 PM
I would love to see Russ Grimm here, but I figure he would end up in DC first.

Marchetti
01-10-2008, 03:20 PM
http://www.thebayonline.com/includes/blogs/viewblog.php?blogid=1

:iagree:

Rayvens52
01-10-2008, 03:22 PM
You really haveto wonder about Grimm though, not one team has contacted him yet, the steelers did not give him the job, there may be more tohim then we all know.

Rxdoxx
01-10-2008, 04:01 PM
I hate to say it, but it may be because Grimm is fat.
I hope not, but I remember hearing some buzz in the past that that may have been a factor why Rex Ryan was passed over.
Stupid reason, I know, and I sure hope that is not it (Friedgen proved weight has nothing to do with ability), but I don't know, have never heard anything negative on Russ Grimm.

Marchetti
01-10-2008, 04:07 PM
I think we deserve to know why?

highwater
01-10-2008, 04:14 PM
I hate to say it, but it may be because Grimm is fat.

I suspect there's more to it than that. Rex is not exactly slim and trim but a few teams are at least interested in him.

AZRAVEN
01-10-2008, 05:18 PM
I think we deserve to know why?

Why do we "deserve" to know anything at this point? These are matters best discussed and decided by the people within the organization not fans.

Losac
01-10-2008, 05:30 PM
I hate to say it, but it may be because Grimm is fat.


:grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac: :grbac:

Andy Reid and Mike Holmgren aren't exactly bathing suit ready.

Rxdoxx
01-10-2008, 05:44 PM
I suspect there's more to it than that. Rex is not exactly slim and trim but a few teams are at least interested in him.

Agreed, but a couple of things on that.
Rex has a very good resume as a DC, very worthy of being looked at.
Russ didn't get that high being in Wisenhut's shadow in PA and even his current title is confusing... assistant head coach (no coordinator?) and O-line?
What a funky hodge-podge that is.

Your are right, there probably is something else, but with all the media-hounds out there, I think there would have been a hint of something surfacing in the Rooney HC search, or the Arizona move?? I heard/saw nothing.
But I did hear talking heads speculating on Rex's weight so I wonder if there is not some fat-bias.... but then I look at Seattle and Philly... it just seems like the majority of HC are Dungy/Edwards/Billick builds... who knows?

Marchetti
01-10-2008, 07:13 PM
Steve and Ozzie are fatheaded if they don't take a serious look at Grimm.

highwater
01-10-2008, 07:25 PM
I don't really understand this fascination with Russ Grimm, but given some of the marginal candidates that the FO has brought in, I agree that he should get a look. He's at least as qualified as some of the others they are looking at.

I mean, come on, if they're interviewing Marty's son, why not Grimm?

Marchetti
01-10-2008, 07:29 PM
What do you mean you don't understand the fascination?

He's by far the best candidate.
He'll immediately fix the "O" line.
He'll immediately command the locker room.

He's a bulldog, he's hungry and he's got a beef with the steelers.

What's not to love?

AZRAVEN
01-10-2008, 07:50 PM
If he's such a hot prospect why isn't anyone beating on his door? I'm not saying he's good or bad but I really don't see the fascination considering the league wide lack of interst in even interviewing him.

Marchetti
01-10-2008, 07:52 PM
That's what we'd like to know!

Bewildering!

highwater
01-10-2008, 07:55 PM
He's by far the best candidate.

Why? I'm not knocking the guy, I just wrote that he's worth a look, but to say that he's "by far the best candidate" is a bit of a stretch. What has he done that makes him by far the best candidate?

I'm all for bringing him in for an interview, but let's not go overboard.

Rayvens52
01-10-2008, 08:12 PM
Why? I'm not knocking the guy, I just wrote that he's worth a look, but to say that he's "by far the best candidate" is a bit of a stretch. What has he done that makes him by far the best candidate?

I'm all for bringing him in for an interview, but let's not go overboard.

Could not have been said any better. Seriously there has to be a reason Pitt took Tomlin over him. There has to be a reason this guys name is only brought up on this site and nowhere else. Sure it is worth bringing him in but there has to be some baggage with him.

Marchetti
01-10-2008, 08:38 PM
What minuses?
None!
Look at all the pluses.
Whats not to get excited about??

"Seriously there has to be a reason Pitt took Tomlin over him."

It's as plain as the nose on his face!
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:OyQCbeSmpKZ4SM:http://www.nflhs.com/images/CoachPics/MikeTomlin-200.jpg

AZRAVEN
01-10-2008, 08:48 PM
What I'm asking you Marchetti is what makes you so sure that Grimm will do all the things you said above. Command the locker room, fix the OL, and how do you know he has a beef with the Steelers? Maybe the reason he isn't being pursued is because he has put the work out that he isn't interested in being a HC. Not saying that's the case but there has to be some reason noone has generated so little interest.

Marchetti
01-10-2008, 09:06 PM
Look, he's been the assistant hc at pittsburgh and Arizona.
Arizona has improved since his arrival and everyone credits Grimm.
He's improved his teams in pittsburgh and Arizona so whats to say he wouldn't here in Baltimore.

If a former all pro lineman known as a bulldog type who has 3 super bowl rings and has recieved nothing but positives for his work as a coach can't command respect than nobody can.
I don't know why they're not talking to him, he's not "sexy" enough I guess.
I think he'd be a outstanding with our team.
He has to feel slighted by the steelers after he was favored.

Tspot-D-Ravenator
01-10-2008, 09:16 PM
As long as that "brass" isn't named Dick Cass.

Let the football people make the football decisions. This should be Ozzie's choice all the way.

:iagree: