Samari Rolle

[Winthrop19]

Whats up with this undisclosed illness? What is wrong with him? It must be pretty serious if he has been out this long and they will not say what is wrong with him.

[highwater]

I have no idea but I've been wondering the same thing. Maybe it's none of our business, but something is clearly wrong. I was under the impression that he was going to play on Sunday, so I was surprised that he was inactive.

At this point, I just hope he'll be okay.

[camdenyard]

Whats up with this undisclosed illness?

It's undisclosed.

[Ravenfan_11]

Too bad he's not feeling well.

However, it was good to see Derrick Martin get some snaps for once. He did pretty god.

[PARavensJeff]

Too bad he's not feeling well.

However, it was good to see Derrick Martin get some snaps for once. He did pretty god.

I agree, although I'm wondering if he picked something up on his trip to Africa this past offseason. I hope he gets well & gets back soon.

As far as DM, I don't know how well he played other then the 1 time Dilfer thhrew at him & he got a PI penalty. I didn't see much more or hear his # called other than that.

[RavenFanatic2k6]

That was a hard game to judge because of how badly SF is hurting offensively.

Lets hope Rolle is back for this game, the Rams may be winless, but that group of WRs they have is no joke.

[donnaj]

I, too, am very curious what is ailing Samari. We heard that he had a virus, then heard that he had a reaction to the medication. Could there be any support to the rumor that he has contracted shingles as a result of the virus and medication reaction was actually the outbreak of shingles. I know that can be very serious.

[Ravens0587]

http://www.profootball24x7.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11804

[Fiesty Ravens Chic]

I almost started this thread yesterday because I was wondering the same thing. I just hope that he is OK and can work through it. My prayers are with him! I just wish the Ravens would give us more information on his illness. But I guess that is left up to the player and if he wants everyone to know his business.

[flraven]

Exactly. Let the man have his privacy and just hope he is well soon, and even better, playing this Sunday!

[yeahravens]

Ok, let's look at this logically. He has an illness that the team feels is not the fan's business. Why? If it was a common illness, there would be no reason to hide it. In today's society, what types of illness need to be hidden? Genetic diseases, I can't think of any that would be too disturbing to print. Sexuall transmitted diseases, now they are another story.

An earlier post talked about his trip to Africa, a place where AIDS/HIV runs rampant. I realize no one wanted to go there, but I know you all thought that, and that IS a disease the team would want to hide.

I did some research just to see if I was on track, pull up this PDF statement about the side effects of drug treatment for AIDS, the first one is Fatigue!

http://img.thebody.com/legacyAssets/50/44/sideeffectchart.pdf

I hope I am wrong btw, however the more you cover something up, the worse I believe it is. Make your own decision, this is only a theory!!!!!!

[festivus]

Yeahravens, that guess and $2.10 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Try somewhere else and you might not have to spend as much.

[yeahravens]

Yeahravens, that guess and $2.10 will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Try somewhere else and you might not have to spend as much.

What?!? Was that supposed to be humorous or clever? :insane:

Yeah you might be right, he probably has the measles, the club would never want that to get out. Jackass!

Instead of making stupid remarks ( and I mean that was dumb ) why not respond with something like a type of disease that would be of the personal nature that would be covered up by the Ravens.

Or at least instead of being insulting, judgemental, or whatever that obscure moronic comment was, say something that debunks what I wrote with a fact or two.

Rub those 2 brains cells together and conjure something up.

[FHRaven]

What?!? Was that supposed to be humorous or clever? :insane:

Yeah you might be right, he probably has the measles, the club would never want that to get out. Jackass!

Instead of making stupid remarks ( and I mean that was dumb ) why not respond with something like a type of disease that would be of the personal nature that would be covered up by the Ravens.

Or at least instead of being insulting, judgemental, or whatever that obscure moronic comment was, say something that debunks what I wrote with a fact or two.

Rub those 2 brains cells together and conjure something up.

Whether it's the measles or a really bad cold, the HIPAA Act prevents the team from disclosing the illness. So that argument holds no water.

[festivus]

What?!? Was that supposed to be humorous or clever? :insane:

Yeah you might be right, he probably has the measles, the club would never want that to get out. Jackass!

Instead of making stupid remarks ( and I mean that was dumb ) why not respond with something like a type of disease that would be of the personal nature that would be covered up by the Ravens.

Or at least instead of being insulting, judgemental, or whatever that obscure moronic comment was, say something that debunks what I wrote with a fact or two.

Rub those 2 brains cells together and conjure something up.

Wow, touched a nerve did I?

Ask someone with good manners what I meant. They'll help you. :thumbup:

FH, I don't think HIPAA has anything to do with it. I just think when appropriate the team is mum about why players are missing games. It's common decency by the coaching staff, protecting their own. I *think* HIPAA would apply equally to the more traditional football injuries. Plus your comment about yeahravens' 'argument' is somewhat misleading because yeahravens is not making an argument. First he used inductive reasoning to guess that Samari Rolle got AIDS in Africa, then he got hot when I mocked him, then he called me a jackass. Unless you are saying yeahravens is arguing Rolle has AIDS, but I don't think that's an argument. More like an extremely rude guess.

[yeahravens]

Wow, touched a nerve did I?

Ask someone with good manners what I meant. They'll help you. :thumbup:

FH, I don't think HIPAA has anything to do with it. I just think when appropriate the team is mum about why players are missing games. It's common decency by the coaching staff, protecting their own. I *think* HIPAA would apply equally to the more traditional football injuries. Plus your comment about yeahravens' 'argument' is somewhat misleading because yeahravens is not making an argument. First he used inductive reasoning to guess that Samari Rolle got AIDS in Africa, then he got hot when I mocked him, then he called me a jackass. Unless you are saying yeahravens is arguing Rolle has AIDS, but I don't think that's an argument. More like an extremely rude guess.

Am I dreaming or are you speaking about manners and rudeness on a message board?:insane:

Why don't you read what I wrote. I said STD's would fall under the undisclosed illness category, I used a quote from another to make the point that it could be possible without commenting on his lifestyle, I stated it was a theory, I said I hope I am wrong.

What part of that did your liberal mind block out?

Your response is a lot like those who jumped on Sen. McCain for saying that given the choice he would like a president of similar religious beliefs, but would vote for Muslim that was qualified. You look for the bad, and waive the big ole judgemental flag.

Again, I am challenging you to use your mind, and tell the rest of us what type of disease would need to be hidden versus, let's say pink eye which is what T-Sizzle has. Remember, he has been in the NFL for almost 10 years and this is the first time it came up, so your guess would have acknowledge that.

btw - since I was narrowing down the number of illnesses that would need to be undisclosed, that would be deductive, not inductive:nerd:

[PARavensJeff]

When I was talking about his trip to Africa, AIDS/HIV wasn't my thought, but that he picked up 1 of those exotic viruses/diseases 1 can get overseas, especially in 3rd world countries. Why did it have to go there?

[pyite32]

What part of that did your liberal mind block out?

:

I would like to know what being a liberal or conservative has anything to do with the back and forth your two are having?

[festivus]

Am I dreaming or are you speaking about manners and rudeness on a message board?:insane:
Yes. Why, did you check yours at the door?


Why don't you read what I wrote. I said STD's would fall under the undisclosed illness category, I used a quote from another to make the point that it could be possible without commenting on his lifestyle, I stated it was a theory, I said I hope I am wrong.

What part of that did your liberal mind block out?
Huh?


Your response is a lot like those who jumped on Sen. McCain for saying that given the choice he would like a president of similar religious beliefs, but would vote for Muslim that was qualified. You look for the bad, and waive the big ole judgemental flag.
What?


Again, I am challenging you to use your mind, and tell the rest of us what type of disease would need to be hidden versus, let's say pink eye which is what T-Sizzle has. Remember, he has been in the NFL for almost 10 years and this is the first time it came up, so your guess would have acknowledge that.
All I know is if he'd picked up HIV in Africa a couple months ago he wouldn't have AIDS yet. As any jackass knows.

Whatever it is, it's clearly something the team is trying to keep private, and I have no problem respecting that wish and not embarrassing myself by guessing at someone else's very personal business.


btw - since I was narrowing down the number of illnesses that would need to be undisclosed, that would be deductive, not inductive:nerd:
I'm just a jackass with only two brain cells to rub together, how would I know.

[Rochardrik]

Ok, let's look at this logically. He has an illness that the team feels is not the fan's business. Why? If it was a common illness, there would be no reason to hide it. In today's society, what types of illness need to be hidden? Genetic diseases, I can't think of any that would be too disturbing to print. Sexuall transmitted diseases, now they are another story.

An earlier post talked about his trip to Africa, a place where AIDS/HIV runs rampant. I realize no one wanted to go there, but I know you all thought that, and that IS a disease the team would want to hide.

I did some research just to see if I was on track, pull up this PDF statement about the side effects of drug treatment for AIDS, the first one is Fatigue!

http://img.thebody.com/legacyAssets/50/44/sideeffectchart.pdf

I hope I am wrong btw, however the more you cover something up, the worse I believe it is. Make your own decision, this is only a theory!!!!!!

Sir, or madam, This post was unconsionable, your following posts were even more ridiculous, as if someone telling you in so many words "your guess is as good as mine" (... that is what what he was saying, that your hypothesis was just a guess, as unfounded as any... because it is only conjecture,) was a slap in your face!... Or were you offended by the Starbucks reference?. :rolleyes: But your original post was completely uncalled for! It implies soooo much, with absolutely NO Thread of evidence. Chill out! :) Bottom line is that there could be a hundred things that he would prefer not to be public Knowledge... deductive reasoning it was not. It's called jumping to conclusions,.... with malice!

[yeahravens]

Sir, or madam, This post was unconsionable, your following posts were even more ridiculous, as if someone telling you in so many words "your guess is as good as mine" (... that is what what he was saying, that your hypothesis was just a guess, as unfounded as any... because it is only conjecture,) was a slap in your face!... Or were you offended by the Starbucks reference?. :rolleyes: But your original post was completely uncalled for! It implies soooo much, with absolutely NO Thread of evidence. Chill out! :) Bottom line is that there could be a hundred things that he would prefer not to be public Knowledge... deductive reasoning it was not. It's called jumping to conclusions,.... with malice!


Still, no one reads!!!! I DID NOT SAY THAT HE HAD AIDS, I DID NOT SAY THAT HE HAD HIV, I SAID ...
An earlier post talked about his trip to Africa, a place where AIDS/HIV runs rampant. I realize no one wanted to go there, but I know you all thought that, and that IS a disease the team would want to hide.

I did some research just to see if I was on track, pull up this PDF statement about the side effects of drug treatment for AIDS, the first one is Fatigue!

http://img.thebody.com/legacyAssets/...ffectchart.pdf

I hope I am wrong btw, however the more you cover something up, the worse I believe it is. Make your own decision, this is only a theory!!!!!!

I was implying that there was smoke, not concrete evidence you F**ing jerks! I was making the statement that it must be something serious for so much effort to hide it.

NOTICE THE PART WHERE I SAY I HOPE I AM WRONG, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION, ONLY A THEORY.

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU FOOLS? COMMENT ON WHAT IS THERE NOT YOUR F****'D UP INTERPRETATION!!!!!

[Greg]

FH, I don't think HIPAA has anything to do with it. I just think when appropriate the team is mum about why players are missing games. It's common decency by the coaching staff, protecting their own. I *think* HIPAA would apply equally to the more traditional football injuries.
Any and all medical information of any kind is covered by HIPAA. The NFL, I am quite sure, has negotiated with the players union to allow for football injuries to be released to the public. This is something the players had to agree to and is probably in every single NFL contract as a standard clause. The allowed specifics are evident, as the injury list is always generic.

Doubtful
Ogden, toe
Questionable
Dinkins, arm
Probable
Heap, ankle

Nothing specific, simply their chances to play and what body part is hurt, nothing more.

[festivus]

Any and all medical information of any kind is covered by HIPAA. The NFL, I am quite sure, has negotiated with the players union to allow for football injuries to be released to the public. This is something the players had to agree to and is probably in every single NFL contract as a standard clause. The allowed specifics are evident, as the injury list is always generic.

Fair enough. But there are times when more details are forthcoming - Suggs & pink eye, Ivy & his emergency abdominal thing last year - and times when it's not - Mike Anderson early this year and Rolle now.

The HIPAA & injury list intersection is interesting. Even generic information can't be released I don't think without consent. There must be some form each player has to sign, with some kind of a release.

More problematic in college, where those consent forms would have bigger legal consequences. I think there was a dust up with the NCAA & HIPAA, though a quick glance around google tells me universities seem to be using some kind of HIPAA waiver.

[camdenyard]

Doubtful
Ogden, toe
Questionable
Dinkins, arm
Probable
Heap, ankle

Greg, what archive did you pull that out of?

[yeahravens]

Thank you Festivus,

That is all I was looking for.

I hope nothing crazy, and he will play soon

[Rochardrik]

Still, no one reads!!!! I DID NOT SAY THAT HE HAD AIDS, I DID NOT SAY THAT HE HAD HIV, I SAID ...
An earlier post talked about his trip to Africa, a place where AIDS/HIV runs rampant. I realize no one wanted to go there, but I know you all thought that, and that IS a disease the team would want to hide.

I did some research just to see if I was on track, pull up this PDF statement about the side effects of drug treatment for AIDS, the first one is Fatigue!

http://img.thebody.com/legacyAssets/...ffectchart.pdf

I hope I am wrong btw, however the more you cover something up, the worse I believe it is. Make your own decision, this is only a theory!!!!!!

I was implying that there was smoke, not concrete evidence you F**ing jerks! I was making the statement that it must be something serious for so much effort to hide it.

NOTICE THE PART WHERE I SAY I HOPE I AM WRONG, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION, ONLY A THEORY.

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU FOOLS? COMMENT ON WHAT IS THERE NOT YOUR F****'D UP INTERPRETATION!!!!!

Pardon me, but you WERE insinuating that he MAY have aids/hiv. That's just a completely irresponsible thing to do! Now you're calling everyone who called you out on that a F****ing idiot? Fatigue is the first side effect of a whole host of ailments! Woops, you should look in the mirror!:rolleyes:

[festivus]

Thank you Festivus,

That is all I was looking for.

I hope nothing crazy, and he will play soon

Yeahravens, you clearly implied Samari Rolle might have AIDS. My post directed to Greg's comment had nothing to do with my comments directed at *you*, however you may choose to read them otherwise.

You keep demanding people read your post, I think everybody else *has*, and you have not.

Cheers!

[yeahravens]

Pardon me, but you WERE insinuating that he MAY have aids/hiv. That's just a completely irresponsible thing to do! Now you're calling everyone who called you out on that a F****ing idiot? Fatigue is the first side effect of a whole host of ailments! Woops, you should look in the mirror!:rolleyes:

Yes, clearly I said it was a possibilty. So what? I also said I hoped I was wrong and whatever it is, it has to be pretty bad to hide for this long.

Three questions: are you insinuating that people with HIV or AIDS are bad, unpleasant, lesser people? If not, why would you berade me for stating it is a possibility? Had I guessed liver cancer, would that be as rude?

[ChampRavens]

Yes, clearly I said it was a possibilty. So what? I also said I hoped I was wrong and whatever it is, it has to be pretty bad to hide for this long.


Dont worry, you are.

That is one of the most moronic posts I have ever seen in my life.


Ever.:grbac:

[yeahravens]

All I keep hearing is rude, moronic, no manners... blah blah blah

Answer my questions, or come up with a guess of your own, but don't keep judging something when you don't have the guts to make a guess of your own.

If you can't do either, let it go, move on to another topic. I get it, rude, moronic, mean, whatever....

[festivus]

No, you don't get it. It's the guessing, and the insisting other people must guess, that's the rude part. This is not 'Wheel of Sickness,' where we spin a wheel and guess letters to fill in the blanks and guess disease names. One, that's just rude, and two, it's stupid.

There's nothing to judge, and it's *your* effort to judge that is *precisely* the problem.

*Now* do you get it?

[Beerracuda]

If it is something he might have picked up in Africa, my first guesses would be either malaria or dengue fever. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dengue_fever) Dengue has been on the rise this year, and this is one ailment that would definitely be covered under the privacy act.

But who knows, it could be something completely unrelated to his Africa trip. It really could be anything, and since the Ravens aren't telling, we'll probably never know, so it's just about pointless to even discuss it.

We can only hope that whatever it is, he recovers soon, and is back wearing #22 ASAP.

[Bez513]

Rolle was back in practice:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/bal-ravensnotes1010,0,964652.story

[Winthrop19]

Samari practiced today. With all the new advancements in medicine it seems his AIDS is all cleared up and he is ready to go.

[highwater]

But who knows, it could be something completely unrelated to his Africa trip. It really could be anything, and since the Ravens aren't telling, we'll probably never know, so it's just about pointless to even discuss it.

I couldn't agree more -- the silence from the Ravens may be interesting, but it really is pointless to speculate. It's really none of our business anyway.

[psuasskicker]

NOTICE THE PART WHERE I SAY I HOPE I AM WRONG, MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION, ONLY A THEORY.

No you don't, you have a wild-ass guess. Here's the difference...

Theory - There's a theory that we are a result of evolution from lesser beings. It's testable and there's significant evidence pointing to the theory of evolution.

Wild-ass guess - I have a wild-ass guess that Rolle has missed practice because he has the Ebola virus, cause "the Ravens want to hide it" (not true), and Ebola is most common in Africa. It's testable, but based on complete conjecture and has absolutely no evidence behind it.

If you want to be taken seriously, act seriously.

- C -

[GreenWave52]

Samari practiced today. With all the new advancements in medicine it seems his AIDS is all cleared up and he is ready to go.

Hahahaha. Fantastic third post. That summed up everything I wanted to say in a short snarky sentence.

[daguruvjt]

I recall right when Samari was listed with an illness, Billick said something publically to the effect of, "We aren't going to say what he has, because people will say he has XYZ, why can't he play with that?" The problem is a reaction to whatever medication he is taking and not the illness.
Who knows? He could just have hayfever and tried a new medication and it messed him up.

He'll be back soon enough!

V.

[df1570]

I've seen some outlandish stuff on message boards in my day, but the guy who hinted that Samari Rolle's condition could be HIV/AIDS related wins the prize.

Wow.

Anyway, I know what Samari's condition is - and even though I've agreed to not talk about it on the air until Samari is comfortable making it public knowledge, I can absolutely assure all of you with 1000% certainty that it is NOT anything even remotely related to HIV, as if you all couldn't have figured that out yourselves.

I'm hearing Samari might get in 15-20 snaps this Sunday as the nickel back if all goes well with his practice sessions the rest of the week.

Just wanted to pass that info along to try and stop this foolishness of having someone hint that it could be HIV/AIDS related.

Carry on...

[ChampRavens]

It was probably some obscure African virus or was just exposed to their water, or some other variable that his body was not used to and he got sick. It sounds like the medication that he was taking was also giving him some issues.

That is pretty much what 99% of the posters on here thought anyways.

AIDS? HIV?

Don’t you get it? That hypothesis is so asinine that people must react with a sort of astonishment that such an incorrect and off base response is possible.

That is why everybody reacted the way they did. Not to mention you obligatory "liberal" shot when somebody dare question you on that take.


:thumbdown:

[Rayvens52]

It is all a mute point now, he practiced yesterday and is playing on sunday which is all that matters we really need to get him back out there, Ivy is def not a good starting Cb, when we get pryce back in a couple of weeks everyone will be happy

[Rochardrik]

All I keep hearing is rude, moronic, no manners... blah blah blah

Answer my questions, or come up with a guess of your own, but don't keep judging something when you don't have the guts to make a guess of your own.

If you can't do either, let it go, move on to another topic. I get it, rude, moronic, mean, whatever....
Yes, you were all that and more! YOU made the completely unjustified, unfounded, unconsionable assumption, then RUDELY called everyone who called you on it a long list of nasty names. Shame on you!!!!:insane: :hammer:

[Rochardrik]

Yes, clearly I said it was a possibilty. So what? I also said I hoped I was wrong and whatever it is, it has to be pretty bad to hide for this long.

Three questions: are you insinuating that people with HIV or AIDS are bad, unpleasant, lesser people? If not, why would you berade me for stating it is a possibility? Had I guessed liver cancer, would that be as rude?

Certainly you Jest! Contracting aids implies shared needle use, or sexual contact with a carrier. He IS married, and he hopefully isn't involved with intravenous drug use. Yes. I'd say that makes it a worse assumption than most!

[Rochardrik]

It is all a mute point now, he practiced yesterday and is playing on sunday which is all that matters we really need to get him back out there, Ivy is def not a good starting Cb, when we get pryce back in a couple of weeks everyone will be happy

Call me a jerk, but the word is moot, not mute. Evidently, many people don't know that, or it would not crop up so much!

[Rayvens52]

you are right it is moot, now i sound like an idot from pittsburgh sorry guys

[Mwjergs]

I have heard from several sources that he suffered from Vertigo.

[camdenyard]

Vertigo is frequently a symptom of a another condition.

[ravenwoman]

Vertigo is a very difficult condition to treat. A relative of mine had it, saw several specialists and it was never cured.

I hope Samari gets well soon and that whatever his illness was will soon be cured.

[HoustonRaven]

Call me a jerk, but the word is moot, not mute. Evidently, many people don't know that, or it would not crop up so much!

Maybe he meant the person was quiet? ;)

[psuasskicker]

Vertigo is frequently a symptom of a another condition.

AIDS?

- C -

[Fiesty Ravens Chic]

What a good laugh reading all of this mess. I can not beleive in 2 days it has gone from AIDS to Vertigo. I doubt we will ever know what "illness" he is suffering from. I just hope he is feeling better and can make it out on the feild this weekend!

[RAVENOUS52]

I normally give people the benefit of the doubt, but this yeahravens guy seems like a loose canon...:grbac:

[ravenwoman]

I read this article today, and ran across this comment. Read under "Billick has Brains.:


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7333810

[festivus]

What a great find ravenwoman. Terrific little article, hitting several nails on the head with one blow.

Thanks for the link!

[highwater]

I don't know where he came up with this "heart ailment" idea, but that sounds like pure speculation disguised as inside information. If he actually knew that was the problem, do you really think he would mention it so casually?