GAME THREAD - Ravens/Niners

[Sephy]

Hey guys! Kickoff in an hour.

I can't PBP today, so if someone wants to do it, feel free. Otherwise, enjoy the game, and GO RAVENS!! :kewl:

[UKRavenStockers]

I don't have interactive coverage which sucks so I'm without any access to the game :o

[Sephy]

Stockers, I'll try to keep the thread as updated as possible. Can't full PBP though, just too busy.

[UKRavenStockers]

No worries chap, may have a lead on a link from a friend possiblement.

[Art-Florida]

Seph has done a heroic job with little support. I hope someone will fill the gap. If i could see it, I might offer, but being in Florida...

Carry on...

[Sephy]

Willis running and catching the ball well. McNair still doesn't look sharp.

[Sephy]

This playcalling is effing pathetic. If McNair can't get the ball downfield, take him out.

[ladyraven127]

Actually that's putting it nicely.

McNair looks like crap.

:bag:

[StingerNLG]

This is not a great start. What in the world was that tipped up pass??

It's like McNair gave it a full throwing motion, and the ball left his hand like it was made by NERF!!

This is getting rediculous.

[ladyraven127]

Special team screw up . . . . well, Figurs. We're starting in the hole again. This is pathetic . . . top to bottom :bag:

[ladyraven127]

McNair pass to the guy I can't spell . . . incomplete. McNair crappy pass AGAIN :thumbdown:

Third and long . . . cripes

[ladyraven127]

McNair pass to Mason . . . no good. Flag on play.

pass interference . . .

[StingerNLG]

McNair's 1st quarter stats: 6-10.....32 yards.

Yeah, 32 yards.

[Dont Know]

That PI call was a gift from the refs.

[ladyraven127]

Flag . . . false start . . . I'M SHOCKED :crazy:

[Sephy]

Playcalling is ass, and McNair is HORRIBLE. Please bring in Boller and open up the playbook.

[StingerNLG]

And another punt. No ability to go downfield.

Anyone else still believe this game is a "gimme"? :(

[ladyraven127]

Piss ass bad pass from McNair again.

Oh wait, he completed one to Williams for a whole lot of nothing.

We have to punt.

Another flag . . . . illegal block in the back.

It's the penalty bowl. :nerd:

[camdenyard]

Gotta love those 4 yard patterns on 3RD-AND-11. :thumbdown:

[ladyraven127]

Hey . . . their offense is as bad as ours :rolling:

[ladyraven127]

I just realized we were in the second quarter . . . . wooohooo . . . . it's a true barn burner, eh?

Maybe we should leave the defense in and see if they can score. :bag:

[camdenyard]

Hey . . . their offense is as bad as ours

No kidding.

This is pathetic. Defenses play like dogshit one week, then they play us and all of a sudden they are the '85 Bears.

[UKRavenStockers]

Just turn it into a game of rugby between the two D's, sweet jesus this is unbearable on the gamecast :eek:

8/13 for 41 yards, that's awful. If he can't go deep get Boller the hell in there, this is pitiful.

Have we registered a sack or a hit or a pressure with our base D yet?

[camdenyard]

McNair isn't being given any time to throw.

[StingerNLG]

Holy cow. Adam Terry out, and looks serious. And now Flynn down too?

[Sephy]

Terry sprains/breaks his ankle, Gaither comes in.
Flynn hurt something as he flopped down after the play, now Chester will come in.

Whee! Injuries!

[Sephy]

3rd and goal from the 10 and they don't even TRY for the endzone. This is f-ing ridiculous!

[pyite32]

jeez, they should just start kicking on 3rd down in case there is a bad snap or something...

[UKRavenStockers]

What's that? 6 healthy O-linemen if Flynn and Terry are serious? Or is it five?

I assume it's Gaither, Brown, Chester, Grubbs, Yanda along the line?

[RavenDavey]

I think it is official.....


We enter the DEAD ZONE instead of the RED ZONE!!

[WxKevin]

Solomon Wilcots said there was nothing open in the endzone and had to check down.

[pyite32]

Solomon Wilcots said there was nothing open in the endzone and had to check down.

So yet another predictable play call

[pyite32]

smith caught the ball with :26 on the clock and Billick waited 10 seconds to call a time out

[UKRavenStockers]

Little game, who's the emergency O-lineman?

Katula? Ngata? Gregg? McLain? Sypniewski?

[ladyraven127]

I believe that this is going to be one of those seasons where one must self-medicate to watch.

By the way . . . . . has there ever been a game where a team has NO passing yards for the entire game?

Just curious :bag:

[UKRavenStockers]

I believe that this is going to be one of those seasons where one must self-medicate to watch.

By the way . . . . . has there ever been a game where a team has NO passing yards for the entire game?

Just curious :bag:

I'm pretty sure the Texans had negative net passing yards against the Raiders last year.


Stockers toddles off to check the gamebook.:hammer:

[UKRavenStockers]

I was indeed correct:

LINK (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/boxscore?game_id=29051&displayPage=tab_box_score&season=2006&week=REG13)

Gross Passing Yards = -5
Sacks - 5 for 37 yards
Net Passing Yards = -42


At least we aren't that bad :o

[camdenyard]

Does anyone on this team know how to get to the damn sticks?

[Greg]

At least they threatened deep there.

[UKRavenStockers]

Going for it on 4th?

Did Billick pick up a prescription for two cojones at half time? ;)

[Greg]

But McNair isn't close on anything close to or beyond 10 yards downfield.

[pyite32]

sigh another pathetic drive.

[Beerracuda]

This offense is absolutely fucking terrible.

And Stover with yet another FG... 9-0.

[Greg]

No, they kicked a FG, 9-0.

[Greg]

It's Boller Time, muthafuggaz.

[Dont Know]

At least he tried for the end zone...

[Beerracuda]

It's Boller Time, muthafuggaz.

Yeah, one would think so!

However, it IS Billick that makes that decision, so we might as well fuhgettaboutit.

[UKRavenStockers]

Odds Maker time folks to add some excitement to the afternoons proceedings, gimme odds on the following:

Ravens up 15-0 with 10mins left in the 4th.

Boller comes in to rest McNair with a two TD lead.

Ravens go to prevent offense and prevent defense.

Ravens win 15-13 as we hold on the 2pt conversion?


:grbac: Negativity is a terrible thing. :grbac:

[Dont Know]

injury update (http://boards.baltimoreravens.com/index.php?automodule=blog&blogid=7&#) courtesy of Mike Duffy



The X-rays on tackle Adam Terry came back negative, but he does have a bad ankle sprain. The word on center Mike Flynn is that the center will get taped up and try to play again.

[Sephy]

pass defense doing it again...

[pyite32]

Odds Maker time folks to add some excitement to the afternoons proceedings, gimme odds on the following:

Ravens up 15-0 with 10mins left in the 4th.

Boller comes in to rest McNair with a two TD lead.

Ravens go to prevent offense and prevent defense.

Ravens win 15-13 as we hold on the 2pt conversion?


:grbac: Negativity is a terrible thing. :grbac:

Too late, the secondary is already sucking

[ladyraven127]

We are an offensive force to be reckoned with, eh?

Uh oh . . . . . the 49ers are moving the ball and we of course, get penalized.

Touchdown . . . . lovely.

Now the juggernaut has to come back in :bag:

[pyite32]

note to Billick, that is how you score a touchdown. Oh wait we would need a QB who could accurately throw the ball over 10 yards as well....

[Beerracuda]

I shudder to think what Tom Brady or Peyton Manning is going to do to this secondary.

9-7 now. wooohooo.....

[pyite32]

Ross is a terrible return man

[UKRavenStockers]

Urgh. :grbac:

[Art-Florida]

We are OUT OF spare O' linemen. Cross fingers.

[pyite32]

Get McNair the F out of there !!!!!

[Beerracuda]

3 and out, as the wonderful playcalling sets up another 3rd and long, and our ever-accurate QB McScare throws a horribly inaccurate pass that wouldn't have made it to the sticks anyway.

Fucking pathetic!!

[pyite32]

At least the D identified the screen there

[Purpleguy]

Don't even think of pinning this one on the defense. They are getting pressure. That was just a great throw by Dilfer. Our whole problem is Mr. Checkdown,Steve McNair.

[Art-Florida]

Ease up on Steve. He tries, but is washed up. HEY Kyle!

[Sephy]

GET MCNAIR OUT OF THERE. Please.

[Beerracuda]

Yet another inaccurate pass by Air McScare!!! 3 and out again!!

GET HIM THE FUCK OUT OF THERE!!

[Purpleguy]

But Steve says he feels fine.

[Art-Florida]

Niners 132 yards total offense. Ravens - not a lot better. Defenive struggle? Nah, bad offenses.

[Beerracuda]

heh, you would think that Nolan would know that you can't run that kind of play against a fast defense like the Ravens'.

I guess he comes from the same school of thought as Billick. The University of Some Guys Never Learn.

[Greg]

It's time to yank him, one, MAYBE two passes of more than 10 yards downfield attempted. He can't even hit the underneath stuff to move the chains.

They don't even respect that we will try to throw downfield, and by that I mean more than 10-15 yards. Hell, we don't even throw more than 5 yards past the LOS.

[Purpleguy]

The fact is that this isn't an injury. He's moving around ok today. McNair is just completely washed up. He's scared to death to throw a pick and his arm is ragged.

[Sephy]

slant slant slant slant slant quick out slant slant slant slant

[Greg]

He is playing scared, he threw the one deep ball through the end zone so he can throw it that far. He just needs to much air under anything deep and knows it.

[Greg]

D Will, nice catch.

[Greg]

Crap, two holding penalties.

[pyite32]

god, holding. If only we could overcome 20 yards in 3 plays...

[UKRavenStockers]

A play over 5 yards, oh my god have I fallen asleep and started dreaming?

[Purpleguy]

5+5+5= shit nevermind

[Purpleguy]

amazing, delay of game again. He sucks.

[pyite32]

how many delay of game calls does McNair get every week!!!!

[pyite32]

here comes another BS spike call on us.

[Greg]

Two of these stupid penalties, STUPID.

[Purpleguy]

I've watched New England and Indy spike balls all day without penalties. That is a BS subjective call.

[camdenyard]

This is a clusterfcuk.

They are going down like flies.

Geez, the 49ers have 10 in the box. Unbelievable.

[Sephy]

Another wide open WR deep missed by McNair

[pyite32]

he almost threw an accurate deep ball to a wide open receiver

[Greg]

Nice long completion out of bounds, Boller . . . err, McNair.

[Purpleguy]

DWill had seperation. McNair missed badly.

[Sephy]

oh another set of routes called in front of the sticks!

[pyite32]

AHHH 3rd and 10, 7 yard route. WTF

[camdenyard]

Memo to receivers:

GET TO THE DAMN STICKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pyite32]

nice acting Koch!!!

[Purpleguy]

this has been about a 7 minute 50 yard drive. Amazing.

[pyite32]

Another False Start

[Purpleguy]

5 yard pass when you need 13, stunning.

[Greg]

This passing game is crap, another 5 yard pass when you need 13.

[camdenyard]

5 yards on 3rd and 13 - it's a GIVE-UP PLAY!

[pyite32]

They should start punting on 3rd down if it is over 5 yards to gain

[pyite32]

Billick is setting us up to lose or win luckily, yet again

[Purpleguy]

What's it going to take to get Mcnair benched? We will never beat a good team with him.

[Greg]

No, it's like an extra 5 yards on the punt . . . well, when you punt it IN THE AIR through the end zone it doesn't matter.

What happened to his sideline punting?

[Beerracuda]

Again, need 13 yards? Quick fix, just pass it for 5.

God, I have to say this - this might be the most boring team I've ever watched. I can seriously say that I've only REALLY cheered once this season, and that was Reed's punt return TD in Week 1.

[Sephy]

I'm so frustrated with the playcalling and McNair right now. We should be up by about 40 right now.

[Art-Florida]

Somebody call 'Big Vinney' from down on the docks, to strangle BB until he brings Kyle Boller in.

[pyite32]

Tackle with your God Damn Arms Ray, stop going for the blow up hit

[Purpleguy]

They get the field goal and we lose. This isn't on Billick, unless you want to blame him for not pulling McNair. He's calling a good game.

[Greg]

And now the defense is going for the big hit and isn't tackling.

This just sucks.

[pyite32]

D is folding, Game Over

[Beerracuda]

Anyone else see a 10-9 score coming?

[Purpleguy]

time is becoming a factor. This is our season on the line.

[pyite32]

don't jump offsides

[Greg]

They had 1.5 drives and had a chance to win the game, thankfully Nedney pulled it.

[UKRavenStockers]

Missed thank god.

Just need McNair to pull himself out a la week one now please.

[Greg]

Of course, we need a first down to run the clock out.

[Purpleguy]

I've been extremely torn between watching this and watching the grass grow outside.

[Beerracuda]

Dammit, why didn't someone tell me that there was grass growing outside?!?!? I spent this afternoon watching THIS crap when I could've been outside watching something exciting?

[UKRavenStockers]

Bench McNair, no need for personal insults and huggers and haters on this, just look at the field, it ain't good enough.

[pyite32]

how to not run the clock out 101 - instructor Billick

[UKRavenStockers]

Dammit, why didn't someone tell me that there was grass growing outside?!?!? I spent this afternoon watching THIS crap when I could've been outside watching something exciting?

At least you had that option, it's night time out here, no grass growing.

Suppose I could've watched some leaves falling off the trees?

[Purpleguy]

gotta love Mason running 20 yards to hand the ball to an official. That was the most exciting part of the game.

[ladyraven127]

18 yard pass play . . . . . what's up with that?

:crazy:

[Purpleguy]

13 YAC, that's what's up with that/

[Beerracuda]

Let's see how we try to kill 2 minutes now.....

[Art-Florida]

Fescue? Bluegrass? Ooooooo, maybe rye? What a turnon!

[UKRavenStockers]

Does this game tell us just how important one Mr Heap is to Billick's offensive gameplanning and the offense in general?

[Sephy]

9-7 baby! Who's excited?!

...please start Boller next game.

[Purpleguy]

Billick doesn't play QB.

[UKRavenStockers]

Did Solomon Wilcotts just say we'd be happy with a 9-7 win?

You've gotta be kidding me, you're smarter than that Solomon.

[UKRavenStockers]

Billick is on the Hot Seat now!!!! I will take Norv over him!!!!!!

If you're gonna bring in Norv as the OC, then yes please.

But if you're bringing him in as the HC then err, no, speak some sense would ya?

[UKRavenStockers]

Guess you did not se the score of the SD Denver game today huh???? 41-3!! We have that kind of talent!!!!No excuses...stop supporting this piss poor coach it has been like this for too long

One game doesn't make a coach, Turner's been a terrible head coach. He's a great offensive coordinator but he's a terrible HC. Billick is still a good HC, and I'd take him over Norv Turner, if you can Billick who provides an upgrade? You won't find any better coaches available to take this team forward if you can Billick.

What you need to do is tell him once and for all to yield any control of the offense, it started to get moving when he took over the playcalling last year but it's been far too dink and dunk this year. If it doesn't take off under Boller, let Neuheisel take full control of the offense, full control.

[Greg]

BB has never called a good game...

Really, in Minnesota he never did? How about last year? No good games?

He's a good head coach except he should have benched McNair. The problem wasn't the play calling, except maybe a bit more running. The problem was his QB has no confidence to throw downfield and checked down continually.

[ClericBlackDave]

But he does control the QB...Dont let the puppeteer off


That's perhaps the silliest thing I've heard. The QB has agency, he decides where to throw the ball. He can make a choice.


There is a reason why DWill and Clayton don't exist anymore, they are running more intermediate to deep routes that our current QB won't throw to.


McNair is the issue. Whether or not Boller is the solution, McNair is killing this teams offense right now.

[Greg]

And for god sakes leave the Vikings stats alone!! He has done nothing here...Thats about a decade.

I'm sorry, you brought up how he calls games. He has called 16 games since Fassel was fired and none before that until we go back to Minny. I think he called some fine games last year and even did in the playoff loss. McNair threw two crushing picks. The first one in the end zone and the second was behind D Will that if it hits him in stride was going to be a huge play. If McNair hits those two plays we might be talking up the Lombardi the team just won.

But if we want a full body of work to look at to determine his ability to call a game we have to go back to Minny.

It's hard to rate today since the ball was only thrown deep enough once to cause the camera showing the line play to have to pan. I have no idea how often the WRs were open deep.

I would have run the ball a bit more, but not substantially, part of the reason McGahee has a nice average is that we throw enough to keep 8 out of the box. Though with McNair they aren't far from the box.